Before starting this post, I would like you to have a bird’s eye view of the post we did earlier and then the comments section, which is filled with the filthiest possible messages from boys for girls and vice versa.
Pardon me for being blunt, but that’s how things are happening.
Today, boys are looking for girls’ mobile numbers and girls are in hunt for lavish guys. This is what we have become after half a decade of telecom deregulation and the boom of telecom industry.
Before digging further into details, have a look at following screenshots, which shows the pending comments (which aren’t approved) and approved comments of a single post on ProPakistani – This Website has Thousands of Pakistani Girls Mobile Numbers!
Approved Comments:
732 Approved Comments making 37 pages
Pending Comments:
You would be astounded by the figures, 9,216 pending comments making 461 pages.
I would like to share few of the comments here, to make you know what kind of situation we are dealing with:
imran ali here from karachi and i am doing a job in oil & gas fields as a quality engineer so well educated and sincere girls can contact with me.
h3y Guyz’Z. wOtz Up’ where are yOu all’ i’m Aisha Rehman frOm islamabad’ i just want gOod fri3ndz fOr a decent n caring friendship’ fOllOwing are my numberz’ dO cOntact me’ Only nice Guyz’ nO cheap talking etc’ thank’Z
As I Mentioned My Name Above And In Previous Comment, It Clearly Shows That I Wana Friendship With A Boy Having Golden Heart. Y Don’t U Try My Number. I Don’t Wana Praise Myself, But It’s Necessary To Tell U That M Beautiful,Voice Is Awesome. Do Call Me. Is Anyone There?
Its ASAD here. I just need a life partner and lovly true friends. Hmara rishta es duniya mai sb se piyara hoga, movies se bhi barh kar,..believe me once. If you alone, could not find any ture friend yet, want to make your life happier, than accept my friendship.. I can change you life.. believe me once.. I am so caring,nice and multi dimensional. I can change your life by caring, giving you a lot of Smile, and changing your life. Plz give yor hand and join me. My cell no is:
ager koi larki fone pr apni jawani ki pyas mitwana cahti hai to plz contact me ********** ap ki pyas mita de jayege jo aik bar ayege woh bar bar ayegi.
mujy punjabi fmale frend ki zarorat hy kuch batin share krna chahta hun
And believe me still there are nasty ones that i can’t even share here. Pardon again for showing all this. Numbers have been omitted.
The purpose of showing the comment count and few of these comments is to figure out if this is what mobile packages are being used for?
If so, then we really need to rethink here, what path we actually are on and what are the demands and necessities of time.
Here we welcome our readers to comment and discuss the issue to identify the origin of this madness. You can write something as a message for those thousands of young – who really are in a desperate need of advice.
The most stupid post that I have seen in a very long while. Ahsan, I am not targeting you but I do not agree with the opinion you have here.
Our youth, as you see, is busy with all sorts of wrong stuff so you simply cannot just blame “mobile packages” for all the wrongs that are happening :)
There a lot of other factors involved, from literacy, to education, to social development.
Mobile packages are just a medium, they are not the source so NO, your opinion is a bit too judgemental I believe.
I agree with you to an extent that mobile packages aren’t the core reason for the scenario – but were we this stark a decade ago too?
— but were we this stark a decade ago too?
The answer is YES.
Go to google and search for “pakistani girls phone numbers”
Then change settings on the left to custom range: 1/1/1999 to 1/1/2001 (or whatever you want). You will see hits.
It is too bad that the results do not include things like Yahoo groups or geocities (dead now) you would see more there. The pages are a lot less than you see for today, but for simple reasons: 1. fewer people on the internet from Pakistan, 2. very very few people with mobile phones. And note what you see ONLINE is always less than what happens in person to person exchanges. Didnt you have a story about people at shops who sold numbers of girls that came to recharge their prepaid accounts? No need for websites for that purpose!
If that does not prove to you that telecom bulk packages are NOT the cause then I don’t know what will. (Also I wonder if propakistani.pk was going to be posting “internet dialup packages are hampering our youth” type posts if propakistani existed decade ago.)
Perhaps you are a bit incredulous when you say, “were we this stark a decade ago.”
I clearly remember telephone friendships over landlines. Men and women calling for a chat.
Wasn’t that even a song in the 1980s? Details for the young kids: http://divaneemagazine.wordpress.com/2007/06/01/telephone-pyar/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X1EX3StdOk
33-22-44. lol
Sorry bro but yes we have been the same all along.. mobiles just made our reality more accessible. Dont worry and stop blaming it on tertiary things .. take responsibility of your youth and dont blame others .. why dont u go to a madressah and blow urself up or something. Stupidest post ever
Saad trust me question mark leaves many things unanswered, and I didn’t conclude something rather it is left open for comments.
And just like you pointed out other factors as well.
Dudes!! Here is the thing…. you get facilities and options in life, you can choose them negatively or positively. Exmaples….
A gun can be used to protect and serve and it can be used to rob and kill. The Choice is yours!!
Internet can be used for research, social cause, socializing and for viewing porn, downloading porn, uploading porn. The Choice is yours!!
Religion can be used for leading a peaceful life and in the same way, it can be used to provide basis for terrorism. The Choice is yours!!
Same goes with these packages and what not man. I know a few people who use the SMS bundles to spread social causes like asking for blood donations and collecting charities. Others use it for defrauding simple folk. So don’t blame the telcos, blame the ppl misusing it. I believe we nned to put out a social message of why not to use these packages instead of playing the blame game.
On a seperate note, no one will be more happier than the telcom operators if these packages wind up. They do not earn anything from them.
Dudes!! Here is the thing…. you get facilities and options in life, you can choose them negatively or positively. Exmaples…. -> Why don’t we allow other negative things then? prostitution for instance, if we are to give the choices to our society…
On a seperate note, no one will be more happier than the telcom operators if these packages wind up. They do not earn anything from them. -> didn’t know they are doing charity to spoil the nation
Who says prostitution is not allowed in this country? You seriously think the brothels in every major city are running without the knowledge of the authorities and the general public? Yet I believe most of us refrain from it don’t we?
Secondly, earning in mere paisas off these packages is pretty much charity. Do a little fact finding and you will find that 80% revenues are earned from VAS like call back tunes, GPRS, SMS(YES SMS is a VAS) and other such services. Voice offers are of hardly any benefit to telcos.
VAS generate 15 percent of total revenues, as i am told by majority of operators…
LOLzz wonder which operator have you been contacting!! Biggest VAS anywhere is ring back tunes, GPRS and SMS. Voice bundles and campaigns earn nickles and dimes as they come with network utilization costs and interconnect charges. Same doesnt apply to VAS. One time subscription and then constant renewal charges even if you are not using them.
Are you in segments and pricing?
If not – then let’s value the stats provided by those who are managing segments for a long now.
15-17 percent comes through VAS, rest is from voice
60-65 percent of VAS revenues come from SMS, rest is RBT/GPRS and others
These stats you are sharing are at least a year old…. SMS revenues were taken over by GPRS and Caller Tunes. SMS is no longer ranked as the number one revenue generator, well at least not in the 3 companies I have been to. As for voice, I was specifically referring to voice packages like night time packages and discount packages.
Normal tariff still provides a margin but still in mere paisas. The voice packages provide only 1/8 of what normal calls do….
What i get from your point is that VAS share has increased from 15 percent to 80 percent in one year? can’t agree with this
80% was a typo, its 60% from VAS now. This hasn’t changed in a year though. The change started back in 2009 when operators starting offering better GPRS bundles and the largest data base of caller back tunes. Mid august 2010 this trend could be positively identified as VAS revenue shares increased by no less than 18% for almost all operators. Since then simply take a look at the development done in the VAS arena only. There have been many more VAS packages introduced as compared to voice. Simple reason is the higher revenue they earn.
By the way vas isnt dat much revenue generating as vas a mostly provided by vendors and the telco and and the vendor both have thier share on each single subscrption so if a vas costs daily 1 rs to the customer dat 1 rs would be shared by vendor and telco both…so 1 cant say that vas is generating 60% of revenue….
Dear Saad Sb.
I totally disregard your comments. All this is due to the packages offered by telecom companies. Did you ever think that when any business person wants to make a call for business purpose he will have to pay more charges on the other hand the telecom companies offered lowest call rates for youth packages. Can you answer me why these companies offered free packages and budle of free SMS,s late night.? What is the use of these packages by business community and an employee at late night.? Is there any authority which can ask these companies to close this practice so that our young generation can be saved from this sort of wrong things.
I totally agree wd u !!
most of the time guys spread numbers of their enemies with girls names.
Agreed with Saad. There are positives and negatives to everything. The problem I see here is lack of social training. Our media is so busy with politics that they have forgotten about their foremost responsibility of educating the society on social aspects. Again, I am not blaming media alone for this downfall. There are a number of factors, and I respectfully disagree with your opinion that Mobile Packages alone are responsible for all this.
I agreed with you Mr. Ahsan javed, and I guess Mr. Saad didn’t actually understand the point of view.
of course SMS/Voice packages are not the source of this madness but its one major reason, look at those comments, its very clear they are desperately trying to hunt someone, and its all because those SMS/Voice packages provide them a ‘Chance’!
And xahid one can easily imagine how worse things would be in those 9K comments. And majority is up with mobile numbers, in addition to email adresses that are pretty less in number.
Salam, how r u ahsan javed bro. Girlz want’s only cash, boys want’s only s**.
Walikum Assalam bro. :-) i am good.
And that’s your point of view, everyone has his/her own.
God save this nation.
I do agree that its not helping parents cause to groom the generation next. The authorities need to re-visit their policy of giving so much of liberty to Telecom Operrator whom’s prime aim is to make money. Lets join hands & make a blog to educate the youth & register our protest to Govt.
Do guns kill people or do people kill people? After all, has anyone seen a gun walking down the street shooting at everyone without a body and hand controlling it?
Something was made to ease communication. Now if a certain minority makes attempts to use it for other purposes, why blame the technology? During the era of landlines, there were crank calls and deep breathers. Guys used to write their numbers on paper and toss at girls in markets. They would follow cars to determine addresses.
The above is simply a classified site. If someone wants to do something, they should be free to do so. It’s their life and their choice. If they wish to talk through the night, it’s their money and their time.
If you want to look at the broader picture, in Saudia Arabia, guys drive around with BB PINs advertised on the bumper or rear windshield of their cars, in a bid to overcome the strict social conditions.
The underlying point: man is a social animal. The more you confine it, the more it will fight with carnivorous attitude.
i agree with u !!! our youth is being destroyed with all these facilities mobile internet laptops ….all i blame is parents they don’t give times to their kids why they provide mobile internet in such young age if they give all these facilities they should keep an eye on kids
Bhai Sahib
Let me share my uni times with you when i was student and try to get a girl talk with me was a hell lot of problem but now a days damn its like chewing gum easy to buy easy to chew so yes mobile is the Petrol for Cablez fire and i dont think i am old i am just 28 and its only been 5 years so yes things gone from ok to worst with the help of stupid indian channelz and that fcuking piece of s**t (Mobile)
AuA,
@Ahsan: I say we get rid of telecom operators, internet, cable etc. What do you say?
All we need to do is educate ourselves.
That’s surely not the solution.
If you are asking for my opinion, i must say its parents’ fault in the first place. Not because they provided their children with laptops, mobiles, gadgets etc but they never bothered to teach moral values.
How many boys you see pointing at girls? What about those who dont? I think it is just the basic education from your home that makes you able to decide between right and wrong.
— If you are asking for my opinion, i must say its parents’ fault in the first place.
The first thing I have to wonder when reading that line is, what is the above story that blames mobile packages? If it is the parents fault primarily **in your opinion** then why is the post focused on some other reason? There no mention of parents in the story. Or is the story someone else’s opinion?
This comment was in response to “All we need to do is educate ourselves”
I don’t think so everyone can educate him/herself in this regard. Why not everyone is a mobile snatcher, among youth?
There are many examples I have personally witnessed, and I am sure you too as well, not every young boy/girl gets addicted to drugs or things like that even suicide after getting disappointed from life or other thing, say delay in job, financial crisis, there are many so-called reasons.
What differentiates them? Trust me it is just the atmosphere you are provided with, at home and certainly your parents’ involvement.
So the comment was not just about post, rather to clarify that line, Hopefully this clears the confusion.
Most pathetic post I ever seen on any IT blog. Instead of innovative, thought provoking or solutions to or social and financial issues all we are coming up with is ban this ban that, porn issue, boys vs. girls perhaps it attracts more visitors to the site :( not good
What do you expect from a country where there’s no LEGAL way to get sex for ADULTS? When a young male or female knows they won’t get married till their CARRIER starts what are they supposed to do (Mutilation?) during those 10 years (18 to 28 if they are lucky)??
So the one and only legal way is blocked by society, carrier, dowry and God knows what and there is no other way, in a situation like that i wouldn’t be surprised to see comments like that.
Solution i see is the education for teenagers and for PARENTS to give their children the right to get married freely after they reach to a certain age.
OR Free the society from religion (do we have a religion anyway?) and the so called “Mashriqi Aqdar” and “Rasoom o Rawaj”. So we can forget the “Girls numbers” and prosper as a nation in a free society at-least.
Note: please don’t tell as a Muslim i shouldn’t talk about sex, Islam has NEVER said that.
So where Islam said that go get your desire filled when you are Adult and not getting married?
Who said it has?
I am not advocating teleco’s if you got that impression from my above comment.
“What do you expect from a country where there’s no LEGAL way to get sex for ADULTS? When a young male or female knows they won’t get married till their CARRIER starts what are they supposed to do (Mutilation?) during those 10 years (18 to 28 if they are lucky)??”
Lol, that’s my personal observation and a right one I believe. If we (including myself for that matter) are doing bad deeds to fulfill our desire that does not mean Islam has allowed to do so.
What you quoted above is actually the result of not following Islam properly. Unfortunately our Islam is just limited to juma and eids.
Peace.
Actually this is confusing. “What do you expect from a country where there’s no LEGAL way to get sex for ADULTS? ”
So you want some other LEGAL ways if people aren’t getting married in time or say on time.
Personally i don’t need any other way, i already have a “LEGAL” way ;)
To the point; by LEGAL i meant marriage because that’s the only way if we consider our-self Muslims. May be i wasn’t clear so take it this way: In a country where the only legal way is blocked or lets say way to difficult there you should expect such “nasty” things to happen and thats the only reason Pakistani youth is too frustrated about sex.
Otherwise we should free the country from everything (Religion, Culture, tradition, Bans etc), make it a free society so the youth can think anything else than hunting girls, mobile numbers and contribute to country’s progress.
Peace.
Ok, now let me get straight, this is pointless. Let me explain why?
– In a country where the only legal way is blocked or lets say way to difficult there you should expect such “nasty” things to happen and thats the only reason Pakistani youth is too frustrated about sex.
Marriage isn’t blocked it is our self created conception that we are to get married after getting some job etc etc while if we go through what Islam says, Holy Prophet PBUH always asked those to marry who were unable to make some good livelihood. Even Prophet asked to marry twice(a complete incident) when a person claimed that things aren’t getting better even after getting married.
Coming back to the point, marriages aren’t bad, may be i am wrong here but instead of having illegal ways of satisfying your desires, go marry someone even if your parents don’t agree. i may be wrong here but this is just my opinion.
– Otherwise we should free the country from everything (Religion, Culture, tradition, Bans etc), make it a free society so the youth can think anything else than hunting girls, mobile numbers and contribute to country’s progress.
And by this you think youth will just forget about all these things? i agree that we are always attracted towards those things which are banned, it is in our instinct, starting from the Hazarat Adam A.S. and Amma Hawwa, see it was just a tree.
But imagine what happens if Police stops busting thieves by just publicizing that stealing is bad.
There are certain things which can be left unbanned so that people may not get more attracted towards them.
What will you do if your kid runs away from Namaz? won’t you imply it on him? Though i agree he will try to flee more as you ask him again and again but here Islam has asked even to punish if he isn’t paying attention.
So my friend this is totally pointless that we should just leave these things as they are instead of banning as youth may have some other things to do than to get attracted towards these charms.
Sorry I have to leave my desk, will post my opinion when I get back.
OKAAT ki baat hy saari .. agr ye okaat ka lafx yahan kisi k0 samaj mey ata hy to theeek werna ye blah blah krnay se ab aap kisi k0 nae r0k saktay, awam gandagi n behoodgii mey boht agay nikal chuki hy…
Dear no body!
According to my knowledge, no of married person involved in illegal sexual activates are far more than the number of unmarried persons. So at least m not agree with this that early marriage is the solution to this problem.
And for the post my point is that, evil is in every person some control it and some have to control it due to unavailability of resources to do it. So I think telecoms are increasing the chances of doing it, yet they are not the primary reason.
For example one of my friends was very fond of friendship with a girl but at that time he did not have a cell but when he got a cell he at least flirted with more than 30 girls in a few month. It is the role of telecoms in this situation.
And sorry I m not in a position to suggest any solution to this.
not a good article, as everyone mentions there are positive and negative aspects of everything.. lets just hope and pray that our youngsters stop making such stupid mistakes
This is true to some extent that mobile companies are causing some social harm in contrast to the advancement and aforability they brought to the telecom market. Its also true that this is not the only or the key contributer which is leading our youth astray, there are so many other factors at work.
while keeping our discussion focused to the topic, in my view its actually the way of advertizement adopted by the telecom companies in the country which is causing all this negetive impact on the development of our youth. Here our telcom regulator should also play its social role by defining some new policies to regulate telecom advertizements and drawing a social border line to preserve our cultural legacy and prevent our youth from its wrong effects.
Of course its messing up the Youth, cheap mobiles and cheap packages are ruining up things for youth, sara din Facebook or sari raat mbile messaging!
Thanks for sharing a good post with us.
sorry but
LMAO
ager koi larki fone pr apni jawani ki pyas mitwana cahti hai to plz contact me ********** ap ki pyas mita de jayege jo aik bar ayege woh bar bar ayegi…
YAR AMir bhai PLease Do some new posts….wohi 2 sal purani posts phir aa rahi hein…..THERE ARE NO GAMING SERVERS !! IN PAKISTAN………….LINKDOTNET KILLED ITS GAMING SERVERS FOR CS-SOURCE AND MOHAA….IT HAPPENED AN YEAR AGO, AND STILL THEY HAVE THE ADVERTISEMENTS ON THEIR WEBSITE WHICH I THINK IS NOT RIGHT!!! ADVERTISING SOMETHING WHICH UR NOT OFFERING….AND BESIDES THAT:( LOCAL BHI SIRF CS KE SERVERS HEIN :( ……NOTHING FOR GAMERS IN THIS COUNTRY…NOW I M NOT AGAINST OLDSKOOL GAMERS BUT…WHAT ABOUT BLACKOPS…HOMEFRONT ETC….:( WITH ALL THE LEGIT GAMES WE HAVE TO PLAY ON HIGH PING SERVERS………IS QAUM KO BLASTS AUR “MOBALE FRANDDDSHIAP” SE NIKAL KE KISI AUR JAGHA LAGAO BHAIIII!!!!!
Hey mate no offense but do you know using CAPS on Internet is considered as shouting on others? And usually not taken seriously. Save for a few words in CAPS if they need a little extra attention.
its not the youth thts curropt
the fault lies in the caretakers and parents……
sex is a tabboo in pakistan ppl dnt discuss it wth thr childern n teachers dnt exactly educate there students regarding the demerits of having an affair instead one who is brave enuf too speak bout em is considered unislamic and is treated like an alien
the youth is jus curious and the media adds a lot too thr curiosity a few years bak i wud have blamed the US and Indian media for such things but thankfully now i wont have too do that bcuz our own productions are doing much better with popular shows like mehmoodabad ki malikayen its inevitable for youngsters too not get intimated by em ….
soo dnt blame those who r innocent blame those who r messing with those innocent minds
and bout legal sex
well no matter how yu justify it but thrs no logical reason for it too be legal and plus islam named it haram n v awl no wht happns when yu walk away from it
thrs only one way too control too the youth frm turning into freaks n its by educating them on the topic and by educating i dnt mean inside the institutions only it should be public on televission, in mosques, play areas even a gaming campaign can be started too educate them on the subject
@saad hamid. .my dear first of all i’ll say you don’t have brain cuz a brainless person can make a comment like u . The base of this post is telecom peneteration in our society and our use. decade ago our society was not like this. Gals were not so easily reachable for boys. So what to blame? Figure out . The only thing we can blame is telecom. Mobile phones. What boys do? They load a balance , buy minutes and start dialling random mobile numbers and there’s a chance one out of 10 calls may be a gal… so conclude yourself now? Isn’t mobile responsible for this!
Fakhre. First thing first, if someone has an opinion different than yours then you can object with it but you cannot just ridicule it by saying that person is “brainless.”
Furthermore, I have yet to see a guy who has been so desperate to dial away to find a girl. Furthermore, the girl can hang-up and block his number. It takes two to tango. Again, usage lies with the user.
What is your agenda?
Morality of telco usage is not telco.
such subjects should be discuss separately under social issues.
Please be clear about role first before putting up these ridiculous topics everyother quarter.
And dont make assumptions about me just because i totally disagree with your absurdly confused state of mind.
I don’t think so
there is lot of pplz not taken interest in this kind of things.
I do not want kind of blog is this, anymore. A month or two later, it is replugs the “same-old same-old.” A mobile package is like a knife. The usage depends on the person using it.
“if it bleeds, it leads” — newspaper saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Its ASAD here. I just need a life partner and lovly true friends. Hmara rishta es duniya mai sb se piyara hoga, movies se bhi barh kar,..believe me once. If you alone, could not find any ture friend yet, want to make your life happier, than accept my friendship.. I can change you life.. believe me once.. I am so caring,nice and multi dimensional. I can change your life by caring, giving you a lot of Smile, and changing your life. Plz give yor hand and join me>>>>>>>>>
isnt it nice?i mean it soundz so real..
itz nt jus telecom itz damn so called “social networking”
ruining life ov ppl
may i ask who are you?
may i ask abt ur num?
can i hav ur #?
I think you better know the reason why i am asking you, anyway its ok.
nopes i dnt kw anything..will u plz tell me y u r asking abt ma name?
let’s just leave it then.
you are using my email actually.
really?actually im blind na..dtz y
k
Yes, Ahsan, You have wonderfull thoughts but Saad’s Opinion is also correct. Young generation are being mis leaded.
Asalam o alykum
Mobile packages might be a reason to displacing the youth from the right path but, as saad sb mentioned these packages are only a medium which casing wrong and evil effects on us.
My opinion as per my studies and deductions, That this current generation is effecting badly by mobile, computer, internet and other related stuff because i believe there is a huge gape between the 2 generations (Parents & kids)
i belongs to middle earning class family and my observation is related to this class only. in middle earning class families most of the parents they are not aware of computers, internet, and mobile. they can use mobile but only making and receiving calls. they have no idea about the gprs, mms, sms packages etc. same is the case with computers. they have no idea what their kids are doing late night in-front of computers.
This is us, the young generation who using these technologies for good and bad purposes both. & i believe our coming generation will be a little on safer side because i will not let my kids given a free hand to use the technology for bad purposes. check and balance will take place automatically as i personally aware of the evils used by my self :)
Pakistan is not the land of pure people. We rank number 1 for searches on porn, horse sex, camel sex, cat sex, child sex, rape sex.
We kill each other for language, race, ethinicity.
And thanks to ProPakistani for showing another “Bright Side” of PAKISTAN.
We are going to face a very tough time in the near future which will decide our fate.
Dr B, its seems that you missed Google’s press release on this one. Google revealed that the data available through Google Trends cannot be trusted.
Grow up guys, things have changed.. True relations are only found in Books and Movies now ;)
Stop yourself from being such desperate and get a life..You need yourself, your parents and siblings need you; forget these things and concentrate on your respective professions. :)
Well look yaar. Yeh problem hr society ma hota ha. Its even. And youth ko sb samajh ha they know what is right and what’s wrong.
the packages by mobile companies are destroying the youth & MOBILE COMPANIES are all FRAUD & PTA is also responsbile for this as they are not having any check on the MOBILE COMPANIES. I DEMAND that there should be some LIMIT to this.
A demand by someone in a blog comment? That’s got to scare some compnaies!!!! Not.
A country which loses her moorings is full up with these distractions. I have read ‘Rainbow’s” comments. These are immature. It is a clich’e good for a debating competition but not for a serious discussion. The more you facilitate any events – good or bad – it flourishes. Open up the the “Heroine’ trade and you will find many inquisitive minds flling a victim to the same. Do not discourage gays and you will find people taking it up for the kick of it – and then become habituals. Why Do’s and dont’s in every disciplined society. Girls should understand that their most pracious posession is their chastity and being pure. So also for the men. More opportunity through sms more of such detestable attractions misleading the young. ut are there any healthy stuff being prompted/ Even the adverisements on TV of the mobiles especially Moblink the most objectionable ads are being shown which we cannot see along with our family
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my point is that, evil is in every person some control it and some have to control it due to unavailability of resources to do it. So I think telecoms are increasing the chances of doing it, yet they are not the primary reason.
For example one of my friends was very fond of friendship with a girl but at that time he did not have a cell but when he got a cell he at least flirted with more than 30 girls in a few month. It is the role of telecoms in this situation.
And sorry I m not in a position to suggest any solution to this.
holy crap…. damn comments on the previous post dude…. specially that rabia drama… xD
God Bless Pakistan….
I LOVE PAK
my all dear fellows.
the actual reason is, that we pakistani are desperate nation. mobile phone is just providing a medium. As there are no other easy, cost effective way to get entertained. So people around us are
just left to chat or being involved.
So mobile phones are just showing us , what we really are, in reality. the inner core of us.
Asad: How many countries have you actually been to – to be lamenting Pakistani nation as ‘desperate’ ?
With or without the mobile packages, teenagers will find a way to do such stuff. Teenage is called teenage for a reason!
And then you’ll say that PTCL cheap and all access DSL is responsible for all the pirated movies and porn people download?
What about self imposed limitations ?
why does everyone thinks that only a watchdog and guard character can help us?
believe me this generation can find a solution for anything you throw its way… there will still be texting if you increase the rates ten fold…
Piracy is a non bailable offence in Pakistan, has it stopped anyone?
Hi
mobile packages are only a medium which can be easily used to spread our cultures stupidity we are mad using this medium and yes up to some extent you are true telecommunication companies want fools like us to make a handsome revenue. but i am sure if only air is provided to our youth to deliver any message then they can easily use it negatively like pharting and sounding like jerks.it is basically our education system’s problem so thats why in this 21st century the youth is becoming fool with this education system.so there is a conclusion of mine that youth is fool not these companies.thanks for sharing this good topic
The basic issue is with opportunities available for our youth to spend their free time. There are hardly any sports facilities and libraries with easy affordable access to our younger generation. Most of the young children don’t even go to schools and end up being servants or cheap labour in factories. Our garden has more bushes and thorns than flowers. Our budget is being mainly spent on defence and safety from terrorism instead of health and education. We need to set this direction right and everything else will fall in its place.
Telecom is not the reason but it’s one of the catalyst and you need to control the catalysts as well. I agree guns don’t kill without somebody pushing the trigger. But you do control the guns availability and don’t make them available on chewing gums’ price at the corner shop.
what i believe that we people are that much attracted towards western culture that we try to opt that in any way we could. Opposite gender attraction, particularly the filthy one, that came from open media of west has made us show our frustration for the same. So it means, the major source for such bad things to happen is our much exposure of west through any medium i.e. internet, tv channels, movies etc etc…
If we want to drag ourselves out of such filthy things, first we will have to make ourself clean.. coz thought is the first medium of exchange of feelings, emotions and even frustrations.
We are by our thoughts filthy, and thus adapt all such means to satisfy our thoughts.. it is a time to ponder over our innerself. things will automatically change. what telecom media.. what movies.. nothing will create any problem there in.
I am sorry, it is human nature to procreate !If that was not the case, we would have died out as a species ages ago. Believe me – people are dating, people are getting married and – yes believe it or not, people are having sex. How else would there be over 160million of us here in Pakistan. How can the mobile operators be responsible for something that mankind has been doing since the beginning of time.
Yes in that sense sex is the base of the humanity. And there is only a slight difference in marriage and illegal sex according to our religious as well as social concepts.
But dear here is a different problem, innocent little girls from villages and even from cities are being flirted by boys and they leave their houses and in some cases they are being killed after sexual abuse. so it is not only about dating of boys and girls, and we should not let it as it is, we will have to come up with some strategies to bring the use of mobiles in a responsible way.
I am talking about normal human beings, not perverts and sickos. But again even that can’t be the mobile operators fault, it must be the parents fault. People need to take responsibility for their actions not look towards inanimate objects to blame the wrongs of society.
If that is the case blame Toyota, or Honda for road deaths, not bad drivers.
“””we will have to come up with some strategies to bring the use of mobiles in a responsible way.”””
that is what I sugested, too much flow of tech without knowing what to do with it. isnt it a social responiblity to educate people about use of it??? someone will have to do it.
AOA all,
Ahsan ur absolutely rite,,our youngs are distroyed by these pkges they are busy all nite on phone and they are not attentive and presend in class next day,govt have to take notice its really embarrasing,,
To The Author:
Please! Cut the crap. Are you playing the paternal role here? let people live their lives. You are honest? Your surrounding is good enough then spread the goodness, instead of criticizing others and calling them desperate, needy and blah blah.
What is wrong with people like you? Havent you got any other thing to do in life rather than run after boys and girls and analyzing, judging them? People grow, people learn. let them be. Dont add further frustrations to an already frustrated nation, and neither play the blame game. You want change? then change yourself and you will find people following you. but if you go around talking about “others” you can forget this nation ever going on the path of success.
Im a girl and finding the way you have displayed all this information, Im more ashamed of you rather than of those girls. True there are substances in society that are weird, but isnt that to be found everywhere? Why are you becoming the savior and all macho man to save the world when that is literally something you cannot do! God!
So you want that things like this shouldn’t be discussed? Better left them as they are? I am not comparing any individual with myself rather this is something we say “wake-up call”.
I am not going to say anything ekse at the moment before yu reply to.above query.
Ok. you discuss. you debate. you bring out arguments. Then what???? Will the telecom companies ban their packages for your discussion? Will these boys and girls stop all this because you don’t like it? Or will you go to each person telling them not to do this. This is hardly a matter of concern to you or to anyone, because there are hell lots of serious matters out there needing a wake up call.
Don’t you see? Education doesn’t start with how to use technology properly. Education starts from the root level where these boys and girls need someone to motivate and divert them away from the traditional norms of life. These are signs of frustration, of not utilizing energy for a positive motive. They become like this because they are frustrated with the constant pressures and wrong attitudes of peers. I wouldnt blame them, i would blame parents, teachers, adults who are themselves narrow minded and cannot educate their children towards a positive path.
Do you know that all this just comes from a particular segment of society? Why doesn’t it come from you or me, because we are fortunate to be educated and sit here and discuss this. They are not! My discussion could go on and on. But the concept is not to blame technology. Criticizing them won’t help. Instead like I said before, we can’t change the world. All of us aim to do so., but the sad fact is you cant even change your neighbor so let alone the world. The best you can do is to change your attitude, make it positive and you will find people inspired from you.
If you had to bring up this topic, you should have written it in a more humane and compassionate way, looking at the core level of the problem and giving out solutions, rather than showing up comments and giving them a slap on the face for not having the wisdom like yours!
Dear!
If we think in the way you are suggesting, that everyone should be given freedom to do anything they want, then there should be no laws, as they put boundaries on action.
Advices, role of savior, mentor and controller is necessary to maintain a socially and even humanly acceptable behavior of people, corporation’s machines etc. and it is not role and responsibility of individuals rather it is a common responsibility to stop those actions which are against the general good.
I never said that we should have no laws. But these are very private matters of people who will grow out of them. Obviously no one is going to sit there with his mobile the whole day and continue this action. They will grow out of it, that is why i said, “People learn, people grow!”. You make mistakes and you learn from them.
You should discuss only things that you can change. Words can be said in plenty. Hundreds of people can “talk” about this topic, but anyone daring to change it? And change in specific regards to this topic means, “education”.
These young boys and girls need work, need education, need some sense of individuality, concepts which are sadly not present in the Pakistani culture. Women are so suppressed, so much denied their rights to work and education that this is what they end up doing. Now you get me?
ya this is exactly what I think too!
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It is not the youth’s fault.
They are immature and stupid.
Its their parents fault for being lame with their upbringing.
The fallacy of our youth today is because of the failure of the generation of the parents.
things are looking grim :(