One SIM Per Single CNIC in Balochistan: CJP

By Saleh Sikandar | 22, May 2012 | 71 Comments

Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudry, Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP), has directed the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority(PTA) to bring an immediate halt to illegal sale of mobile phone SIMs in Balochistan, reported local news channels.

Chief Justice of Pakistan, in this regards, ordered to make arrangements necessary to make sure that only one SIM could be issued against a single CNIC in Baluchistan Province.

CJP has ordered the Deputy Attorney General to ask all the cellular companies for holding a combined meeting today for figuring out such a mechanism.

He further said,

“If any cellular company does not comply with the direction for resolving security issues in the province, its license will be cancelled”.

Despite of PTA’s various past initiatives, sale of illegal SIMs hasn’t come to an end. Under the law, customer is allowed to keep 10 different SIMs against a single CNIC.

Analysts believe, if such a practice is adopted later in other provinces, the existing official number of total mobile phone SIMs will come down considerably which is 118 million at the moment.

Telecom authority is awaiting for detailed court order, the spokesperson told media when contacted for comment.

Cellular companies said that they haven’t received anything from authority as of now.

Via MoreMag

Azi

:) aaha
a khan

so anyone below age 18 can not have sim card there? i cant buy my son a sim? i cant have two sims to use cheaper on net rates??

where do i appeal against a basic violation of human right when it is done by supreme court itself???
- Jonny
  
  ummm okay then it leaves with 2 choices for now:
  
  1. Either give up ur “Basic Human Rights” to have ur son a sim
  2. Or Give up ur son to the terrorists (working in Balochistan)
- http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
  
  ur sond and daughters can purchase a sim if u make the (B form) for them
Pir

LOL….mobilink, warid and ufone tu gaiya kaam say.
Muhammad Anas

No Mobile Operator would like to do it, Further more if it happened (First in Balochistan and then in other provinces) than what will be the use of Dual SIM Mobile Phones????
Suchmuch

“impossible” hai yar:-P
Zeeeeee

max two sims should be allowed per cnic in all provinces.
- http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
  
  why only two ???
umer daraz

good action. mager ya pura Pakistan main hona chaye
- Baloch
  
  esay kaho na
Khurram

It’s a good decision but very harsh and strict at the same time.
- Shahid Saleem
  
  It’s NOT a good decision. It’s a STUPID IDIOTIC decision.
  - kami
    
    han sirf aik tum hi ho akalmand baki sab beywakoof hain .
Shaan

What?

First we were tired of Mr Rehman Mailk’s craziest statements, now it seem Mr CJ is willing to fulfill his role.

If you’re really concerned of illegal SIM sells, then the appropriate way is to take action against the real mafia, and one thing is for sure the criminals/terrorists will certainly find alternatives easily, but the innocent public will suffer badly?.
If you don’t believe then take the example of “double riding” restriction on bikes in Karachi and some other cities of Pakistan. Did it solve the problem? and who is suffering more from these kinda restrictions?.
There are more examples where the public life is made difficult because of the impotency of government. i.e. Why Electricity prices are rising every month?

Mr CJ don’t lose your credibility. There are more critical issues waiting for your action.
JiGGer

________ Pagal hogaya hay …. sahi kiya tha musharaff ne iske sath !!
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Baqwas Faisala…
abdul

ya pura Pakistan main hona chaye
Muhammad Anas

+1 Well Said!
Sacha Kaka

Countries where MNP service is available their users don’t need more than one SIM cards.
- Shahid Saleem
  
  “Countries where free email service is available their users don’t need more than one email account.”
  
  That’s about as stupid as your statement.
  - Sacha Kaka
    
    I have only one email account my dear. People like you give headache to their friends with multiple email accounts/numbers.
    - Shahid Saleem
      
      – People like you give headache to their friends with multiple email accounts/numbers.
      
      Like the case with my phone sims, I have different email addresses for work and for personal use.
      
      Maybe you don’t have a job?
- Shahid Saleem
  
  I have THREE sims, all for specific reasons.
  
  1. business phone for client calls and office emergencies
  2. personal phone.
  3. corporate account number for easypaisa payments.
  
  If I wanted I could use the corporate account sim for business calls however that would make accounting for corporate calls vs easypaisa payments harder to reconcile.
  
  But there’s no way I’m giving clients my personal phone number.
  - Sacha Kaka
    
    itna apka multinational business
    
    3 active sim cards = kharchay
    
    itnay paiso say 2 ghareeb khandan ko roti mil sakti hay.
    
    jahan rahi baat easypaisa wagera sim cards ke to wo shayad koi unkay baray policy ho.
    - Shahid Saleem
      
      – 3 active sim cards = kharchay
      – itnay paiso say 2 ghareeb khandan ko roti mil sakti hay.
      
      You must have only one shirt, too. One pair of shoes, one shirt, one pair of trousers, no underwear (reusing the trousers to be cheap). Gave the rest to the poor, right?
      
      Having two phones means less stress in my life. Practically worth more than anything else in the world. As to the costs, I give beggers more in coins than it costs me to make calls a month.
Askani

Sounds as if in Balochistan, there are no under 18 mobile users at all, In this country there are many parents who own the sims of their sons or daughters who don’t have C.N.I.Cs, so what about them then????????
- http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
  
  an under 18 can purchase a sim by providing the (B form) …
  - Askani
    
    And do u think that in a backward area like balochistan, kids have B-form????????? There are thousands of adults who don’t have C.N.I.C.
    - http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
      
      haha fellow i knw most of them dnt have b form .. but if the sim is imporatnt for them they have to arrange to make the B form.its not defficult its easily getable from NADRA..
Ridiculous

With due respect I have serious concerns on the solution that SC is proposing. SC should avoid delving into micro management such as setting prices of sugar etc.

So now SIMs will only be sold on one SIM per CNIC basis in Balochistan whereas roaming will allow me to get SIMs from rest of the country.
- Shahid Saleem
  
  Maybe we can make a law that CJ gets only one car, only one house, only one child. Heh.
  - http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
    
    we have to understand the logic behind this, the problem is that u know , that u have one car, one house and one child.
    but wat woud be your reaction if u found u have another car by ur name and that is being used for terrorism, another house in ur name used for terrorist leaders meeting , or another child and u … ???
    they hav to take strict dicisions against those culprits
    - Shahid Saleem
      
      So take strict decisions AGAINST the misuse of someone else’s ID. It is 100% NOT YOUR FAULT if someone registers a sim or car or plot in your name. How can it be your fault? There is a reason they call it “identity theft”.
      
      So if it is not your fault, why should you be punished with the 1 sim limit?
      - Sacha Kaka
        
        Shahid Saleem bhai zindabad :D
        
        deeds ke baat ko samajnay per zor do keyboard per zor na do. kia pata behtri ajayay to yeh law change ho jayay.
        
        waisay ap kia Balochistan say ho?
        
        Shahid Saleem
        
        – kia pata behtri ajayay to yeh law change ho jayay.
        
        Which law? The Supreme Court cannot pass laws. Try to understand the constitution of the country you live in.
        
        – waisay ap kia Balochistan say ho?
        
        Why do you ask? Do I have to be Baloch to complain about injustice there? It is irrelevant.
        
        http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
        
        during initial launch this was the policy in place, of course circumstances were different altogether then.
        
        shahid bhae its not easy to identify those theifs thats the reason this has been raised,
        
        its better to be late then not to be.. iam totally in favour of this policy.
        
        Shahid Saleem
        
        So explain to me how it will be possible to identify the theives with this policy? If I can illegally register a sim against a person without their knowledge, I can probably also register a sim against a dead man. Does it solve the problem? I don’t think so.
        
        Not everyone who dies is entered in NADRA. I know when a family member died the UC gave me local certificate and only after I insisted on a second visit they gave me NADRA certificate.
        
        http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
        
        if a dead man had already a registered sim on his name , so how come another sim get registered that person will simply be informed that this person alrady have a sim registered on his/her name. as simple as it is
        
        Shahid Saleem
        
        – if a dead man had already a registered sim on his name
        
        And if he didn’t?
        
        Use a little imagination.
        
        http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
        
        lalay a living person gets punished on prisoned if a sim is registered on his name and misused.
        
        wat will hapen to a dead man ????????
        
        and how many activation will we find in such a case .. i mean the sim activation on a dead man cnic .. this would be very rare ..
        
        atleast much much better then the current situation !!!!!!!!!
        
        Shahid Saleem
        
        – lalay a living person gets punished on prisoned if a sim is registered on his name and misused.
        
        And that is the core problem: they go after the WRONG person. Do you think after this is implemented, you won’t find any identity theft? You Will! Suddenly instead of sims being registered in Balochistan, they will be registered in the other provinces BUT STILL USED FOR CRIMES IN BALOCHISTAN. So the wrong person will still be punished.
        
        So what will this solve?
        
        http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
        
        what will be ratio of such activation .. it would be vary rare .. and its not a one man show that all responsibilities are on telecom industries .. NADRA have to be strctly mnitered not leak out the data .. the police have to play there part also..
        one cant clap with one hand u need two hnd to do that..
        
        by implementing this lawi would beleive that PTA has played their full part to stop crime .. rst need to be done by others
        
        waqas
        
        deeds is right, shahid saleem is immature.
        
        Shahid Saleem
        
        – what will be ratio of such activation .. it would be vary rare
        
        That’s your opinion, not backed by any facts. The reality is not everyone smuggles but obviously smuggling is a major problem in Pakistan. Any time there is money to be made illegally, people will do it.
        
        And furthermore about your rare comment, I ask you: how rare is the current situation (sims registered against someone else’s name in balochistan)? Is it also not rare??? Or is everyone doing it? In either case your argument falls flat. If it is rare, then sims registered against people in other provinces will easily meet the demand the criminals have. And if it is not rare, then NADRA has totally failed and implementing the system countrywide won’t do any good.
        
        – by implementing this lawi would beleive that PTA has played their full part to stop crime .. rst need to be done by others
        
        It is not a law.
iRfaN

789 ka pher keya fada nadra data ka fada sgar sim galat reg ho jati hy.all sim ko verify keya jay sms k zarya dosri ko band ker daya jay jen ka data galat ho.
http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds

its a very good dicision if implemented. and i wish for the same implementation.
an under 18 year individual can purchase a sim by providing the (B form), here the complaint of buying sims to sons/daighters is resolved.
the issue of usiing two defferent packages at one time, this facility should be allowed by all operators.
rafay

there should address verification by post as in the case of postpaid numbers. This will surely curtail registration of illegal connections. How many postpaid illegal numbers are there?
- Sacha Kaka
  
  nice idea
- http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
  
  so many illegal postpaid numbers dear .. the idea may reduce the issue but will never solve it
http://tech-striker.blogspot.com Sumeet Kumar

GSM Companies are in Trouble :p

And so sad, i am under 18 and i cant have a Sim Card Now… They Should be a way for under 18s to Get a sim on their name too… I Balochistan Many Teenagers have to go to College, Work etc which is far away from their Home, In such ways, Mobile Phone is the Best way to Communication with their parents, Now If unwanted situations appear, so They can easily contact their parents,

But Now…. What will they Do…. ??
- Sacha Kaka
  
  “an under 18 year individual can purchase a sim by providing the (B form), here the complaint of buying sims to sons/daighters is resolved.”
  
  comment of deeds
  - Askani
    
    And do u think that in a backward area like balochistan, kids have B-form????????? There are thousands of adults who don’t have C.N.I.C.
    - http://propakistani.pk/2012/05/22/one-sim-per-single-cnic-in-balochistan-cjp/ deeds
      
      we should not be proud of this that balochistanis dnt knw abt B form or they dnt have CNIC,
      Dear little knowledge is a dangerious thing.
      if u understand thats important to contact ur parents while away from home to study or work, then its also important to make a b form and CNIC.
      - Askani
        
        ur this answer sounds more logical…….
        
        Agreed
JiGGer

I am with shahid Saleemi on this one, anyone with a functional brain would understand that its our right to have as many Sim cards we like (as long as they are registered) …. Our legal system is a big Flop…People worked so hard to get this moron back in supreme court to fight corruption and what do we get in return? nothing…legal system is as pathetic as it was 10 years ago….this crossed eyed Incompetent loser should focus on Ganja Brothers and zardari leauge!
3G paa g

Abe 3G ko aane tum logon ne dimag ki dhai kardi hai ppp pml N ko vote dete ho phir hath laga k dekhte ho khoon to nahi nikla u all of r joker nation
Baloch

Mobile networks don’t get much of their revenue from Balochistan and they don’t seem that much interested in investing in Balochistan either, that could be a reason that most of Balochistan doesn’t have mobile network, and the place which have networks, they r SIMPLY TERRIBLE….
Qambar

why only balochistan? this shuld be for all Pakistan.
- Askani
  
  Agreed
Baloch

Bol k Lab azad hain teray….
ahmed

assalam-0-alikum
well i definitely support this step there must be stop on this stupid race of buying sims and and more and more cyber security . how many ppl know that how much strictions and prohibitions in usa in saudia but no one will speak its pakistan coz ” bol kay lab azad hain teray ” i loudly support cjp step and more strictions needed for this nation .
- Shahid Saleem
  
  – how many ppl know that how much strictions and prohibitions in usa in saudia but no one will speak its pakistan coz
  
  Why don’t you tell us then? What are the Saudi restrictions on number of sims?
Altaf

This is not solution.

Unless they take measure to track SIMs and users etc, it will not work.
http://raheelaslam.com Raheel

A country ruled by bandits and idiots – Pakistan
http://fashions333.blogspot.com/ m imran

assalam-0-alikum
well i definitely support this step there must be stop on this stupid race of buying sims and and more and more cyber security .bol kay lab azad hain teray ” i loudly support cjp step and more strictions needed for this nation .
dumb

I strongly support the comment of Respected CJP. I am using Warid, Only one Sim since the day warid started its operations.

I think People who use more than one Sim at a time, they are little abnormal or have some doubtfull relationships or have a little criminal mind set.
(Please think hard again and again before you contradict)
Restricting active number of Sims per CNIC, may be one or two Sims per network, is a very healthy idea and it will surely protect the society from many harms.
- Shahid Saleem
  
  – I think People who use more than one Sim at a time, they are little abnormal or have some doubtfull relationships or have a little criminal mind set.
  
  – (Please think hard again and again before you contradict)
  
  No, it means you lack imagination. See my answer above for why I have (and NEED) more than one sim. Tell me why I should give my personal number to business clients? I know they will call me at any hour of the day or night WITHOUT REGARD FOR MY PEACE OF MIND. I can happily leave my work phone at home over the weekend and go out with my family and not be disturbed.
  
  – Restricting active number of Sims per CNIC, may be one or two Sims per network, is a very healthy idea and it will surely protect the society from many harms.
  
  It is the stupidest thing I’ve heard of. Tell me the PROBLEMS TO SOCIETY caused by multiple sims first.
  - dumb
    
    Dear Mr. Shahid,
    
    Its like a cancer, very difficult to deal with….
    first of all why do you keep your office phone with you when you are not in office…. So its your office’s phone and not yours. Your personal phone number is your “personal” and if you give it to your special customer/s then its your own choice and you got to attend it whenever he/she calls or drop it and face the problem.
    If you give someone your office number by saying that its your personal number then read the first two lines of my first comment, carefully.
    
    One can have sims of different networks only to get the benifit of compatitive prices because on-net and off-net rates are different for different networks. But if unlimited sims of same network are allowed on one CNIC more than following problems can never be dealt with easily:
    -Kidnaping for ransom.
    -threats by unknown callers. (bhatta khori etc)
    -spam calls.
    -cheating people at all levels in businesses, in friendships, in relations etc.
    -High rates of crimes.
    -Simply changing numbers and SIMs frequently to avoid people one owes money/obligations to.
    and many more other problems.
Bahsham

haha ha nice joke
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