YouTube Ban Disrupts Other Google Services in Pakistan

Timeout error is a bit strange. Most of the static content comes from gstatic.

Has anyone experienced issues accessing Gmail through Gmail Android app?

just blocking YouTube is not that solution we need to block all Google service in all Islamic countries .

PTA Technical Team is Good for nothing..

They dont know what exactly they need to block..

Blogger is slow.. Analytics Slow… Docs..gmail

This is a Shame that they disturbed the whole thing.

play.google.com is not working. Images on blogger are not uploading and also all websites with .blogspot.com are not opening completely for me.

Everything working alright

Blocking Youtube is Good but blocking it in such way that other Google services aren’t working is sad. and 1 thing to be noted, We take religion seriously. If Google doesn’t remove those videos from Youtube. All Google services should be blocked. We can live without it. Necessity is the mother of invention. When We will need a search engine. We will develop one.

Asalam-U-Alikum,
This is to inform you all that Goggle play is working now. I think they figured it out. :)

shame on those people who say that banning all the google services is loss to us…why you ignorant people are comparing Muhammad (PBUH) character wtih loss in rupees.this is what islam teach you..shame on you..

I am extremely disappointed by so many of you calling each other “children” and “babies” who bring up the issue that Youtube has been blocked. You do not understand the real problem which is PTA and not Youtube or Google.

1) First of all lets see why Pakistan had to block Youtube in the first place :-

Malaysia protested against the video, Their government asked Youtube to block the video for their country. Youtube completely understands and blocks every upload of the video for Malaysia.

India asks Youtube to block the video for their country too following in Malaysia’s footsteps. Youtube/Google again completely understands the issue and blocks every upload of the video for India.

The White House (President of USA), asks Youtube to delete the video off it’s website. Youtube tells the President of USA that he is breaking their freedom of speech rules on which basis every business/person operates on. They tell the White house that they will not remove any video from Youtube unless it goes against their Terms of Service. The White house backs off.

Following this, Pakistani politicians feeling the heat from their bank accounts for some reason ask Youtube to delete the video from their site. Something the White House was unable to do, they are basically telling youtube that you need to forget your own Laws of the country you live in and delete the video from our pressure. Google would have been more than happy to block the video for Pakistan but obviously Pakistani politicians felt they were even more superior than the White House and that Youtube being an American company needed to abide by Pakistani Law.

So as their ego was burst by Google, The PM immediately told all ISPs to block youtube.

2) Why does Google/Youtube have this policy of Free speech? Is it just another term used for attacking
Muslims?

Actually No. Don’t believe every forward message you receive without researching it. This policy is because they abide by US law. Do you know how many times this rule has saved us Muslims?

When the Egypt/Syrian rebel videos are posted on Youtube, the dictators of these countries have tried so many times to tell Youtube to take down these videos because if these videos are not taken down then these leaders will fall and the Muslims living in these countries will be free. Google/Youtube rejected them each and every single time. If you search Youtube for “Insurance frauds”, “US police assaulting citizens”, “Corruption in X country” then you will always find the original videos even though the people in these videos like Politicians, Corrupt Police, FBI, Corrupt leaders all tried to get these videos taken down but Youtube never took a single video down because it abides by the Free speech law. So you can find every single thing either good or bad that happens and no one can keep you quiet. No one can keep you in the dark and no one will have the power to shut you up. Yes this has it’s flaws like that A-hole who made that shitty movie but Youtube was ready to help Pakistan block the video but not delete it.

For example if you are attacked by a corrupt politician in any country in the world tomorrow and you catch him on video and upload it on youtube then there will not be a single thing he will be able to do to get it down.It doesn’t matter if he is Zardari or Obama, Your video will be watched by millions of people but if Youtube did not abide by this law and treat every video equally then your voice would be crushed and no one would be able to see what happened to you and the video would be taken down in 5 minutes. Do you know there is an Iranian film uploaded on Youtube called “Saturday Hunter” that shows Jews for being Zionists, killers, their Preacher being shown as someone who breaks every rule in their religion and is shown as a despicable human being? That movie got an award.

3) “So what if Youtube gets blocked? Grow up!! lolxx”

What you don’t understand is that by blocking Youtube, PTA has not blocked the video, they have brought down the majority of IT sector in Pakistan.

Here is a list of things currently not working:-
Google Maps
Google Docs (Most businesses use it instead of Excel)
Gmail in some cases (Again used for Business)
Play Store (No connection to Youtube apart from having YT videos embedded in app details)
Blogger lagging (There goes most of our blogs)
And so many other useful things.

So in reality calling the people who do not agree with this ban “babies” and that they need to “grow up” is childish because in reality it is the Businesses who are suffering the most from this and I certainly didn’t know children worked in companies these days.

My own company uses Gmail, Google Docs, Dashboard and so many other tools provided by Google to function each and every single day. Today our entire network went down causing a huge loss and because most of our clients are overseas we were ashamed to explain to them the pathetic PTA engineers who cannot even block a website properly. Heck go ahead and block youtube if you want but why is your inability to write a simple algorithm causing a loss on our financial statements?. Our programmer was face palming because of the stupid way in which PTA is blocking Youtube. He says that they can pretty much block every link leading to the actual video instead of bringing down entire companies and Google networks. They did not even do this on purpose which is the funniest part, it should show you their immense ability. Not to mention how much of a problem blocking Youtube will cause to education etcetera. So the people who will suffer the most from this do not need to “grow up”, they are they ones trying to help their families grow up.

4) “Well we showed them! At least Youtube will dissolve as a company after our protest.”

What we are doing is not even a spec on the radar of Youtube. Pakistan contributes to a spec in the statistics of Google. Not only that but Youtube only earns money when an advertiser uses his money to target their ads to a certain population.

I.E : Olx, Pakistan Car Insurance, Habib Bank giving money to Adwords who then place their ads on Youtube and other websites. These are Pakistani companies targeting Pakistani consumers.

If you are not visiting Youtube then you are not causing Youtube a decrease in their profits.

Youtube works on Adwords basis. If you do not visit them then they will not be charging the Pakistani companies paying for Ads as no Pakistani will be clicking the ads.

HBL, OLX and the companies who paid for the ads are not suffering a loss.

That is because they had already deposited (lets say) 50,000 on Adwords. Their money will be deducted as Pakistanis will click their ads, if no Pakistani clicks their ads then their account will not be deducted. So in other words when Youtube is resumed you will all go back to watching videos and then their marketing budget on Adwords will start decreasing. Even while Youtube is down every single website in the world which is using Adwords will still display you those HBL and OLX ads so in other words, you will still be clicking them as most websites use Adwords.

British, American companies will not even know Pakistan protested Youtube on their marketing budget.

That is because FORD, Aston Martin, UK Banks do not advertise to Pakistani audience in the first place. Their ads are only shown to their locals, sometimes not even their entire country but their different states. They never advertised to Pakistanis, they never paid Google to advertise to Pakistanis, hence they will not even see 0.05% of a change in their marketing return. Even if these companies were advertising to you then you will still be seeing their ads on every other site you visit so no change there either.

Do you know how many people in China use the Internet? The number 1 language used on the Internet is Chinese that is because of how much websites they have even though we only see English. Yet China has blocked Youtube yet you do not see Youtube coming down for it. Instead Google actually provides extra services like their Music database which is only available to China. If China not visiting Youtube does not cause a problem then Pakistan cannot do 10% of it.

5) What should we do then?

Then is honestly nothing we can do unless we really are united. I hate the scumbag who uploaded the video and I want him to die a slow and painful death too. But the truth is that he was once a prisoner, got released, re-joined society, made that film and has now disappeared. No one is trying to do something about that person but we are instead destroying each other.

Tomorrow is a protest day where so many businesses and schools, colleges and Universities will be closed. That is another day where Pakistan will stay still while the rest of the world gets education, continues it’s business activity and takes another step towards development.

Not only that but we all know what is going to happen tomorrow. Innocent people will lose their shops, cars and even their lives in the fires that will erupt. Why are we going to be fighting with each other? Why are we going to attack each other?

In the last protest in Karachi, A person died. We have gotten so used to hearing this word that we do not realize it. That is one person who lost him life before it was supposed to end. His family will never be able to see him again and he might have been their only hope for the future. That is one person who will never get to see another day or join his friend for Friday prayers. Just imagine that someone being a person you know, your friend or your family member (khuda-nakhwasta). And we are living in a country where if 1 person dies it is collateral damage, if 10 die it is nothing out of the ordinary, if 25 die it is considered a small bomb blast, if 300 die it is considered Geo News worthy for 2 days where they change their logo and try to blame people instead of gathering the nation and fixing our problems.

Here is what we need to do! We need to join our hands in peaceful protests. We need to fight them with education, we need to defeat them by being morally better than them. Our Prophet S.A.W was the most perfect human being to ever set his foot among this earth and our Religion teaches us nothing but to be tolerant. Our Prophet S.A.W and our Religion Islam is not that weak that we being such bad Muslims who break every other rule of Islam need to start killing each other when someone from the West tries to anger us. Do you know why they do this? They want us to fight and kill each other, we never do anything against them. We are just taking our country further and further back both in terms of Islam and also in terms of Progress.

Our Religion and our Prophet S.A.W is not weak. It is Islam which defined the world. Muslims led the world in terms of Pharmaceutical and Science progress but then it suddenly all stopped. After that we have been going backwards. This is what Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W wanted. He wanted Muslims to learn, to prosper, to be tolerant, to be free, to be follow an example set by him and being successful and both this life and the after life. When someone makes such crap then you do realize that Allah is the one who is going to punish that person. We will never even get close to that imbecile because he is protected by his country even though he did such a shameful act. And here we are punishing each other for doing nothing? What do we get from attacking our own Police with stones the size of footballs? They have families too. If you had your father working in the Police and someone threw that rock at him while he was just doing his job then what would you think?

We need to unite, be peaceful and fight their ignorant videos with a slap to their face. Though it does not need to be a physical slap. It should be done by us Muslims becoming true Muslims. Praying and becoming a true Muslim who is tolerant, level headed, morally, spiritually and education wise so much better than these American imbeciles that we will take over every single industry they so proudly own. So that we will be the one getting every job they were going to get and so that when someone talks about excellence, they talk about us.

Then we can truly look down on these imbeciles and know that we have the perfect religion, we have the perfect life, we have the perfect after life and our minds are clean and pure. Then when these idiots will make these movies, we will not even notice them because that is what they will be to us, a spec on our radar. Someone who is so much smaller than you that their crying punches do not even register to your nervous system while you will have the ability to squish them with your foot but being a Muslim you will just pray for them to see the light and learn from Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W

Thats good they have banned youtube i think PTA should ban it forever:@ and PTA ban most of the google services because google owns youtube..