YouTube Ban Disrupts Other Google Services in Pakistan

The move for banning YouTube in Pakistan over anti-Islam movie on the video website has resulted into sluggish overall internet experience and notably high latency rates for Google Services, mainly on PTCL and EVO networks, ProPakistani users have reported to us.

We are told that almost all Google Services have slowed down or are not available in many cases. Google Search, Blogger, Google Drive, Google Maps, Google Play, Google Docs and other Google services are apparently impacted due to a technical glitch on ISPs’ part.

Google’s Transparency report is also hinting reduced traffic from Pakistan for all Google products, however, due to delayed reporting it is likely that we get a clearer picture from Google by evening.

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ISPs aren’t commenting anything on the situation but said that they will look for any abnormalities in services to get them fixed.

A network expert, while commenting on the situation, opined that this delay or inaccessibility of other Google services could be due to cross-site objects that are now blocked because of YouTube ban but are necessary for running other Google services. This includes, and is not limited to, account information services, javascripts, style templates and other similar things that are now a days stored at centralized locations to enhance speeds and user experience.

Users on Chrome Browser are likely to be more exposed to such Google services issues.

A possible solution could be to allow certain file types from YouTube (such as .js, .css and others) while disallowing Video Content through filters that ISPs are using.

Internet users in Pakistan are calling for better filter management from ISPs during the YouTube ban, which is likely to last for at least a week – if not more.

Tech reporter with over 10 years of experience, founder of ProPakistani.PK


    • dude your retarded and so is this government. they take such senseless and useless steps. In other countries google youtube has just blocked the video from being viewed, but pakistan always has to go to the extreme and block an entire service to prove no point, making the general population suffer and disrupt their services. Like today, with the shutting off phone networks. REALLY?!?!?!? wow this government is so fucking retarded. what if God forbid something does happen? People can’t communicate with anyone to let their families know about anything.

    • I totally support Pakistani government step. However, banning just YouTube, GMail and Google Play on Android phones is not enough.

      Pakistani government need to ban the whole internet just like they banned (turned off) the cellular services (mobile phones) on the Day of Love on Friday.

      It is not even impossible. North Korea did it. So we can do too.

      Go for it Pakistani government. We, the whole nation, is with you. Block the whole internet. Anybody who is against the blocking of whole internet is not a true lover of our PROPHET MUHAMMAD P.B.U.H.

    • Oh god, these ptcl monkeys. Now i know why my android gmail app wont fetch new emails. and Google Docs dont seem to open on PC anymore.

      PTCL, hire someone who can atleast block properly (if you have to resort to blocking sites all). Here You’ve destroyed gmail and other services for thousands of people :|

      Oont re oont. Kab hamari awaam ko aqal ayegi. Nobody cares about your protests of this sort anymore. This is not the right way.

      • This is the problem with our people’s mentality. Someone say something against our beliefs and our theikedaar of deen take out their kulhaaraas and machine guns.

        What’s the point of protesting in your local gali mohallas when the culprits in the USA won’t even bother to see you. The guy who made the film is enjoying life in an AC in USA, here you people are burning puppets and closing down own people shops to go with your walk-in protests.

        Today’s gmail and google docs disruption due to to youtube blockage has already done hundreds of thousands rupees worth of damage to pakistan. Kab samjhogay tum log. This is not the way to protest.

        Google said they’d block the speicific video in pakistan but they dont take orders from anyone (not even white house) so they said they wont completely remove the video. These rules are same for all worldwide google users.

        • A few days ago there was a story about 500 million android phones and tablets being activated worldwide.

          I would really really like to see a graph of android activations from Pakistan last week vs this week. It must be FLAT.

        • That’s the point i have been explaining to my family and friends that, their is always some way of doing things right, But the thing is that most of the people who wanted the youtube blocked are the people who use the youtube or internet just in days like these, when some cartoon or movie comes out, the real pakistani netizens don’t care that who is publishing what on the websites/channels/ FB pages created for the soul purpose of blasphemy. I love my religion and Prophet but i expect that even a another muslim feels or should feel like me…its a new world..where you are free to believe or disbelieve…..Muslim could have answered that bastard in many better ways…

      • Already wasted a lot time of mine yesterday but I just forget that I am an IT expert then why can’t I open Google Docs and Youtube. funny, Proxy is the solution people. I am using an installed Software of US Proxy so Lets get back to work :D

    • Yar PTA sucks. They will remove gmail, google drive and other common google application but I don’t think they do anything for webmaster tools, analytics and other professional application. They are making IT professional’s life miserable Specially webmasters.
      Dear Amir Ata please raise this issue as well or Pakistan has to face huge lose in this manner.

  • Google main services are inter-related. Many sites using Google adsense are linked to google web master tool sites like google analytics. If you are blocking one service it will definitely effect many other services indirectly connected with youtube.

  • Even when signing into gmail you are first redirected to “accounts.youtube.com” which means that the most of google account data is stored at youtube…
    Thats the main reason of glitch nd can be solved by using filters properly…

  • غالباً پی ٹی سی ایل نے یوٹیوب بند کرنے کے لیے اضافی اقدامات کیے ہیں جس کے باعث دیگر گوگل سروسز متاثر ہوئی ہیں۔ فیڈبرنر، گوگل اے پی آئیز، گوگل کوڈ اور گوگل ڈرائیو جو کہ پی ٹی سی ایل پر قابل رسائی نہیں، انہیں سائبر کے ذریعے باآسانی استعمال کیا جاسکتا ہے (٭تاحال)۔

  • It’s no puzzle:

    $ host drive.google.com.
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.105
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.102
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.110
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.100
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.104
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.97
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.103
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.101
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.98
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.96
    drive.google.com has address 173.194.35.99
    drive.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:4006:802::1005
    $ host http://www.youtube.com.
    http://www.youtube.com is an alias for youtube-ui.l.google.com.
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.104
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.100
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.110
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.96
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.98
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.99
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.102
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.103
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.105
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.101
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 173.194.35.97
    youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:400c:c05::5b
    $

    Same IP address. So if your ISP blocks the IP on their filters, poof! No services.

  • I have authenticated my session through a remote proxy and still docs.google.com isn’t opening.

    and google authenticates from accounts.google.com. In past they were doing from accounts.youtube.com

    • your right brother it is working for https

      Perhaps they not using the right technique.

      Regular Expression who do the deal here.

      Atif

  • yes true. it has effected all google related services and load time is high. and also youtube is working on PTCL dsl without any problem. by using https instead of http. pta should block this too.

  • me & my friend’s g+/gdocs not working, but its nothing serious to us, we will wait until google delete all videos related to blasphemy

  • yaar agar pakistanion nay kuch karna hai to paki hackers ko chahiay k youtube ko hack kar k wo videos remove kar dain

    • Agar hum itnay jogay hotay tu aaj hum nay apni youtube naa bana lee hoti. We are good for talking and demonstrations only…..

    • Agar Zaleel Ho Kr Jeena Hy……..
      to Alif, Bay, Pey, Sey Yaqeen Othana Hy…….

      Taleem K Darwazy Band Kr Do……..

      Zardari Pr Yaqeen Kro…….

      Aur Zaleel Ho Kr Jeo………

      Aur Khowar Ho Kr Mro………

  • What the hell again on my ZONG net BB curve 8900 youtube working proper and anti islamic film available also n open n play I’m check right now today at 2:05pm. Kia bakwas hai koi batayga?

  • Yes, the issue lies with PTCL. The block was on keywords rather on a specific domain (youtube.com). Any website, containing or linked/ leading to) with Blasphemous content is blocked. #URL Filtering

  • عقل والوں کو احساس ہو جانا چاہیے کہ دشمن ممالک کی سروس پر بہت زیادہ انحصار کتنا نقصان دہ ثابت ہو سکتا ہے. یہ ہی گوگل وغیرہ کتنی آسانی سے اپنی سروس کسی ملک کے لئے بلاک کر کے عوام کے گردن دبا سکتے ہیں.

    چین روس وغیرہ زندہ باد جو ان ممالک کو بلاک کر کے اپنی سروسس کو بزنس کا موقع دیتا ہے اور لوگوں کا انحصار بھی صرف اپنے ملک پر رہتا ہے نہ کہ کسی دوسرے ملک کی فقیر.

    میں خود یو ٹیوب اور گوگل ڈوکومنٹ کا بہت زیادہ انحصاری ہوں. اب کچھ متبادل اور بیک اپ ہمیشہ تیار رکھنا ہوگا.

    • blocking youtube is the most wonderful thing they do….i know whats ure point and i dont wana talk abt it…but ure point is wrong badmash

  • Follow model of China and block Google and Facebook and have local Bakistani combanies like Toudou, QQ and Yoku

    Why should all the money go to Google Mountainview HQ. Keep money in Bakistan and your own countries and sbend the money here and build more businesses here.

    People like Salman Abbas should migrate to America and do jharoo bhocha at Google Mountainview headquarters. I will give him free bhenol for cleaning

    • And you should go live in some Arab state. As you cannot pronounce ‘P’, you have no right to live in Pakistan, even comment on issues related to Pakistan. Hahahaha…..

      • So right. But there is nothing wrong with giving advice to my Bakistani Brothers, if you don’t accept it and continue to kiss foreign bums, you Bakistanis will remain servant class and continue to clean the bums of my (Arab) children and that of Western beobles. And you will continue to come here to clean bums like cattle on on Emirates (Arab) airlines!!
        You are laughing now but you know I am right.

        Happy bum cleaning till you truly wake up and take your destiny into your owns hands!

  • @aamir, remove google plus widget its creating problem loading site slower .. because google plus is also blocked @ my end . at Transworld gateway

  • PTA Technical Team is Good for nothing..

    They dont know what exactly they need to block..

    Blogger is slow.. Analytics Slow… Docs..gmail

    This is a Shame that they disturbed the whole thing.

  • Get to the root cause of the problem.. temporary measure are not long time solution. This temporary suspension is just to quite ppl for some time.. then after some time these things will be opoen as usual..

    like what hapened with fb about a year ago… ppl were emotional and sentimentall.. and then things come into routine

  • In my opinion, They did the right thing. Pakistan’s Users generates $500 Million per year to Google, If their sites are blocked they will get lose, But here is our nation, crying for their email account and videos. and then we asked that why we are in trouble, target killings, no peace, no job. people talking about PTA to be ashamed, I think we should be ashamed.

  • Everyone just SHUTUP.In this critical situation we are talking about ISP’s and stupid youtube.Really, are you that much stupid.And Mr.author what does this means
    “YouTube ban, which is likely to last for at least a week – if not more.”
    Are you dying to use youtube? HUH??
    And also that stupid website Facebook,that should also be banned.

    • – Why don’t you also ban all those stupid foreign aids which you got and which you will be getting from same countries which you are protesting against ?

      – Why don’t you stop using internet and PC yourself first which was invented by same countries ?

      – why don’t you start doing something productive for your country betterment instead of just commenting on a blog and thinking that you have performed your duties ?

      You weren’t even man enough to use your real name and look at your nickname “MMMTHE HACKER” Seriously ?

      • hey jawad u r also commenting on blog and u think u performed ure duty?….by the way whatever the did its good u should appreciate them not blaming them…..tumharay baap ku koi gali nikalay tum gussay main us ku maybe maroo but us say dosti nai kero gay kabhi bhi is ku yaad rekhu kuch batein profit and loss say oper hut hain

    • Agar Zaleel Ho Kr Jeena Hy……..
      to Alif, Bay, Pey, Sey Yaqeen Othana Hy…….

      Taleem K Darwazy Band Kr Do……..

      Universities Ko Lock Kr Do…..

      Jooey aur Badmashi K Addy Khol Do…..

      Zardari Pr Yaqeen Kro…….

      Aur Zaleel Ho Kr Jeo………

      Aur Khowar Ho Kr Mro………

  • Fantastic
    mr AQEEL
    thats a good for us
    that if we will use any time others countries
    service thats mean
    we will cantsomething
    and we are losing money from nonMUSLIM countries
    acceseries.
    We should stay on our own foot
    so we will defeat nonMUSLIMS services.
    U know the utube is not our necessary
    it made need for us.
    Big think.
    We are MUSLIMS.
    Why we need badthing as nonMUSLIMS.
    What we get from Utube. We are aware as well
    we can ged only
    GUNAH from Utube.
    SO try to understand
    we are MUSLIMS

  • Fully support ban on Youtube…Good action…Regarding Google play, I downloaded software through searching on 4 shared

    • So you’re fine with STEALING google apps (via pirating sites) [ yehan aap logo ko deen imaan yaad nahi rehta ], however you support ban on youtube – which in turn has partially blocked gmail and google drive (documents) which thousands of Pakistanis rely on for their jobs ?

      Good Logic.
      …only in pakistan. islam k theikedaar.

      • Also please make note that the original poster is a pakistani doctor. Allegedly the most educated professional. Agar yeh haal hai humaray doctoroon ka to un jahiloon jinon naay do jumatain bhee naheen parheen un ka kiya kasoor hai.

  • I think Pk Govt taken good step, but google.com and blogspot not working on DSL as well, any idea how long they are gonna take to fix it?

  • play.google.com is not working. Images on blogger are not uploading and also all websites with .blogspot.com are not opening completely for me.

  • A shameful thing to do. You ban Youtube but you don’t ban a million other things that are blasphemous to Islam.
    Google RUNS the internet. Blocking it down will result in a loss of billions!
    Open it MF, I need to use my phone!!!

    If you are such a great muslim, then don’t watch the video! Blocking it from YouTube will not get it off the internet!

  • These people are pathetic :D
    Blocking websites? How about preventing all non-religious practices in the country? Like stealing electricity, giving bribes, electing corrupt politicians, watching bollywood movies ;)

    Grow the fuck up. Stop trying to bring religion into everything. Freedom of speech.

  • Yeh kam to teek kia keh youtube ban hogye…yahan sab ko internet google, youtube, fb, gmail ki pari hai.en ke bina koi mar to ni jaega.google, youtube, fb ye sab yahoodyon ke hain.aur in pe anti Islamic content bhe wahe lagate hain.

    • Google se Pakistan mai 10000 kisam ke businesses chalte hain. I use Google Docs for my office, it is not working. Facebook ek Public Limited company hai, yahoodion ki nahi, and content log lagate hain. FB wale nahi.

      Grow up! Its the 21st century!

    • Bhai jaan kis dunya mein rehty hain aap?
      Log mareekh per pohunch gy hain and aapko ‘yehood’ na-yahood ki pari hui hai.

      My whole company relies on gmail and google docs for inter-team and with-clients communication. Many universities and companies in Pakistan rely on gmail for their official mail services.

      And google-docs is quickly replacing ms office for many companies since its global and free.

  • Blocking Youtube is Good but blocking it in such way that other Google services aren’t working is sad. and 1 thing to be noted, We take religion seriously. If Google doesn’t remove those videos from Youtube. All Google services should be blocked. We can live without it. Necessity is the mother of invention. When We will need a search engine. We will develop one.

      • Europe has a holocaust law. No one can dare to challenge the law. Whoever speaks against it is sent to jail. While here you can say anything about RasulAllah(PBUH). The reason is that when our kids will play these videos. They will get a wrong perception about Islam which will destroy the rooh of Islam. Do you want Madar Pidar Azaad society? Google isn’t important, Its other services aren’t important but Adab e Rasool is very important.This is it.

        • If it’s SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IMPORTANT, why didn’t our government request Youtube to block the video for Pakistani users?

          Malaysia requested it. Youtube complied.
          Even India requested it and got Youtube to block it.

          So why didn’t our government ask? Maybe our government doesn’t think it’s important.

          • It takes 2 minutes to download and upload a video again on Youtube. Do you want to join PTA for a job to send each and every link to Youtube whenever same video is uploaded by someone? (a 24 hours job) Come up with some logic.
            Google has denied to remove all those videos and this is disgusting. Government has blocked Youtube as a threat that we can block all the services of Google if they will not remove those videos! and this is how it should be. We are not Beghairat!
            It wouldn’t be soooooo important for you but it is for us.

            • Youtube already has content detection system set up, so they can tell if one video is a part of another video. They use this system to block audio or to flag user-uploaded copies of music videos.

              2nd point: PTA doesn’t have to give them a list of URLs. They have to tell them what they don’t want to see. Because of the content detection system, they can be blocked automatically.

              But even the minimum effort (giving the URLs to Youtube) was something our Rehman Malik didn’t bother at all to do.

              • That Video was at home page of Youtube. What if someone else upload the same video with different description and title , joining different parts of movie to look it unique. and video hits the main page ??? Home page videos aren’t approved by the Youtube staff. Several foolish videos were found at home page which proves this fact.
                The only solution is to block Youtube until they delete all the videos and make it sure that no such video is allowed to be uploaded and will hit the home page.

                • — What if someone else upload the same video with different description and title , joining different parts of movie to look it unique.

                  Their content detection system would detect it.

                  article from over two years ago (the system has improved): http://www.csh.rit.edu/~parallax/

                  how their content id system accidentally marked a mars film as copyrighted content: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/how-youtube-lets-content-companies-claim-nasa-mars-videos/

                  THE SYSTEM EXISTS.
                  THE SYSTEM WORKS.
                  YOU ARE WRONG.

                  — Home page videos aren’t approved by the Youtube staff.

                  That is correct. They do not do pre-upload moderation for > 99% of the videos. They DO NOT NEED TO. But they DO scan videos for things like dead bodies or porn or thing like that, and they do it MANUALLY. They have systems in place for this.

                  Google engineers are not idiots who sit in front of windows XP and play freecell at work. THEY ARE SMARTER THAN YOU AND ME.

                  I will repeat the point you did not acknowledge AS A FACT: our own government couldn’t be bothered to even TRY asking Youtube to hide the content from us.

                  • shahid simple sii baat hai issue yeh nai hai kay url block hu jayen homepage etc….aik example deta hun aik ghar hai jis main aik banda ap kay ghar waloun ku galian day abusive word use keray kia ap yeh keroo gay kay us banday ku block ker do aur baqi say dosti ker loo aisa nai huta shahid,,,,baat ku samjhu jis ghar say AP S.A.W ku abuse kia jaye wahan kyun jayen bro…..thura tu socho

                    • Your analogy is flawed.

                      What city do you live in? Suppose someone in ANOTHER CITY in the same country is abusing you & your family.

                      Will you refuse to do business with EVERYONE from the other city? Will you refuse to travel to that other city at all, just because of one person there?

                      That is what we have done: blocked Youtube (“another city”) for the sake of banning one person (the “abuser”).

                      You could leave the country (“the internet”) but you cannot make everyone who abuses you, your religion, your family, etc etc leave the world or force anyone to make them stop abusing you. It is not in your power.

                      If Allah wanted, he could’ve made everyone a Muslim. He chose not to. Ponder on that fact.

      • My dear Fahad, Give me the one good reason to ignore their opinion, with respect to Islam. We are Muslim and we should take strict action against them just like if any person abuses our family member. The respect of our PROPHET (PBUH) is much greater than our family members.

  • Dear Brothers,
    Issue is not that the Youtube is blocked or not?
    We can access Youtube with https or http?
    Issue is to show true Loyalty with Prophet Muhammad PBUH being and Muslim and Muhammadi.
    Once Facebook celebrated Muhammad Day; Many to us left FB, hatred of doing such stupidity. And many of us are still using with many +ve/personal reasons.
    Today its youtube, tomorrow wetube, day after tomorrow ourtube and etc.
    ——————————–
    Key Muhammad say wafa tu nay tu hum teray haan
    Yeh jahan cheez ha kiya, loh qalam teray haan
    ——————————–
    Just show your true love loyalty with Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.

  • oay Google Drive to chala do! Google Docs ny kis ka kia begara hay.

    Beshak Google Search ban kar do, bus GMail aur GDrive chalta rehny do.

  • We have seen drastic drop in the traffic and the sales after the ban of the YouTube. Probably it iss the Google analytics code on the website creating problems.
    Also getting loads of complaints from our customers who have bought android sets from us over the issue of Google Play Store.
    TechCity


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