#FontFail: Did the Calibri Font Prove to be a Turning Point in JIT’s Investigation?

In one of its findings, the JIT probing the Sharif family has concluded that the documents submitted by Hassan Nawaz and Maryam Safdar are in fact falsified and that she is the real and beneficial owner of the Avenfield (Park lane) apartments. The report states that Maryam Safdar submitted fake documents and misled the Supreme Court and the JIT.

The investigation team states that “It has been proved beyond doubt that Ms Maryam Safdar had been the owner of Avenfield properties.”

The manner in which the JIT came to the judgement that the documents are fake, has also been detailed.

On February 4, 2006, a ‘trust deed’ was signed between Hussain and Maryam where the latter was declared as a “trustee” of the Avenfield property. When the JIT requested the Sharif family to submit evidence regarding the deeds for M/s Nielson Enterprises Limited, M/s Nescoll Limited and Coomber Inc, Maryam Safdar submitted ‘original’ documents which turned out to be just good quality modified photocopies of the originals.

The same documents have also been shared by Maryam Nawaz via a Tweet.

The JIT sent the documents to London’s Radley Forensic Document Laboratory where the lab expert found that the font used in both the documents was “Calibri.”

The expert states

It is in fact true. The Calibri font was released commercially by Microsoft alongside Office 2007 and Windows Vista, which introduced the ClearType fonts collection.

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For documents produced and signed in 2006, the use of the Calibri font was not possible since any “original” documents or their photocopies could not have been typed with a font that wasn’t commercially available at the time.

The JIT concluded that the use of the Calibri type font proves that the documents were manufactured after the mentioned dates.

The JIT report states

The trust declaration documents, presented by Ms Maryam Safdar to the JIT as well as the photocopies of these documents submitted in the Honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan are fake and fabricated documents.

The same documents were also signed by Maryam Safdar, Captain retd. Safdar and Hussain Nawaz. Submitting false documents to the court is considered a criminal offence under Pakistani law.

Read More: #FontFail – Pakistanis Are Now Modifying Calibri Font’s Wikipedia Page

Page 55 of the JIT’s report on the Sharif family mentions the use of the Calibri font.

He is the Editor at ProPakistani.


  • M Waseem Akhtar

    As per Wikipedia:
    Office 2007 was released to manufacturing on November 3, 2006; it was subsequently made available to volume license customers on November 30, 2006, and later to retail on January 30, 2007.

    • Jawad Hussain

      bhai, just ask PML N whether there is licenced version of office? i can challenge they even dont know that

      • Ali Salman

        Yes true as all literates and intellects have joined PTI.

        No matter when the deed is signed they could not prove that ownership of flats was before 2006, London land registry office is the only source.

        Rest journalists, generals, judges who never lived and did business out of Pakistan know nothing about how business in UAE is done, sponsor/partner relation, out of court authority letters having no legal value but common, who is real owner and who is legal owner…
        1000s of Pakistanis on their DED business licenses are mentioned as employees but they are actually investors and for sponsorship they pay AED 5,000 and more. A small percentage has their name in business licenses as partner/owner , rest have name of locals sponsors mentioned as owner/partner though in reality they are just “agents”.

        • Kashif Surhio

          bhayag proof and documents provide karna owner ka kaam hota hy. Just like if you file a case on me against my home, its me who will provide the documents to prove you are wrong

          at the end “bhaya g smile”

      • ZAB

        Just wait for another Qatari letter to settle this font issue.

      • PakPatriot

        Do you think in supreme court justices are using licensed version windows…!! So why you want to bring shame to whole nation. You know stamp vendor is a poor man he buys 30 rupee CD as all we do.

    • Farhan Habib

      but document above dated 4th Feb 2016, So again couldn’t argue on that

    • Anand

      The document is signed Feb 2006. So either way, the font didn’t exist then.

      • Manoftruth

        Dear how many links should I send you from where you could have download font in 2005 and 2006

    • FARHAN

      The signature date is 2nd February, 2016. #usesense

    • Syed Shamir

      However, you can scroll up and see that dates on Maryams’ documents is 2/2/2006 ,i.e february of 2006 and as per wikipedia it is Nov 3,2006 ,as you wrote. This still proves that Maryams documents are fake due to #fontfail .

    • Kashif Surhio

      Ok, but tell me how this FONT was available in February 2016?
      You need to double check the date on document as well before supporting corruption ka khandan

      • M Waseem Akhtar

        Do you felt any support element in my comment?

        • Kashif Surhio

          your comment itself in the support as you are trying to make it clear that font was available in 2016
          what else needs to identify that your comment is not supportive or supportive???

          • Shahid Saleem

            You misread it.

            Waseem’s comment was that it was available MONTHS AFTER the signature date on the document.

            • Kashif Surhio

              what is misread when the font was available “AFTER” the creation of document?
              Any logic behind your comment, please share with us. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ed82a7e243804c235690a1a70faac506601e8e410b0caa0310e8d11052a86248.jpg

              • Shahid Saleem

                Again, you misread it. Waseem only posted about when the product became available. He was providing information, more precise information than the article. In no way did he say or imply that he supports or does not support corruption, or the JIT analysis of the font is wrong or anything like that. You are the one who brought up “support corruption” angle.

                • Kashif Surhio

                  Check the unedited and original page of Wikipedia today and confirm yourself. What he posted yesterday quoting “As per Wikipedia” was the information deliberately edited by nooniyans and before Wikipedia revoke those false editions and lock the page for any further editing until 18th.

          • Nouman Khan

            lol, Kashif Surhio, in our gaming world people like you are called “noobs”. xd

          • M Waseem Akhtar

            Bhai aap ny jawab zara jaldi mein likha hai?

    • Ahmed Habib

      Why am i able to download the font in 2005 as well? ;) Please search Google for “Calibri 2005 download”

      • LoL

        Because you are searching for Calibri 2005 in 2017

    • Warraich

      At least read the date with signature. It is 2nd of February 2006. It means, they company could not use the software as it was made available in 30 Nov, 2006. Hahaha

  • Muhammad Hannan Ayub

    Yes calibri Font was commisioned by Microsoft in 2002/04 but it was included in MS Office 2007 so wasn’t accessible.
    P.S this is a forensic report by one of top UK labs so there’s extremely low probability of an error

    • The first beta of Microsoft Office 2007, referred to as Beta-1 in emails sent to a small number of testers, was released on November 16, 2005. The Beta-1 Technical Refresh was released to testers on March 13, 2006. The Technical Refresh fixed issues in installing with Windows Vista build 5308.

      • Kashif Surhio

        this means that you are saying that maryam and his company were those people to whom microsoft have released the beta test version???

        • Naqi

          i am laughing xD

        • Waqas

          yeah bill gate probably email maryam nawaz to test his beta office :D

          I bed any legal firm. atleast those dealing with highly valued assets will ever use alphas and betas on their corporate offices. Because of potential bugs and vulnerabilities.

        • Yasir Mahmood

          Yes
          They have terms with even Bill Gates
          Bhai Nawaz ki pic nahee daikhee Gates bhai k saath..hahaha…LMAO

      • Key

        You really believe public office and law firms in UK use beta softwares in commercial environment? If yes, then you have no idea what you’re talking about. Give it a rest.

      • Aamir

        HHAahhaah
        GOD, these PMLN supporters.
        They dont even fear of ALLAH before protecting their corrupt leader

    • Office 2007 Beta 2 was announced by Bill Gates at WinHEC 2006, and was initially released to the public at no cost from Microsoft’s web site. — Wikipedia!

      • Murtaza Saeed

        And your argument is what exactly?
        That PML-N was using Office Beta and early releases to forge documents? Or that Maryam Nawaz was an early tester for MS Office and she used the fonts before they were released to the public?

        • Did you seriously just say that? How old are you anyway? It’s the law firm they used in the UK! Not them! You still think billionairs write their own contracts? Even I don’t. C’mon man!

          • Murtaza Saeed

            Look you patwari oaf, you think the law firm used beta versions and early releases of MS Office to draw up FAKE contracts?

            The Sharifs are being sloppy with their lies now and can’t even forge documents properly, tsk tsk.
            Just look at the documents in the pictures, you think that was written by a law firm in the UK? It looks like they asked their local photocopy wala to draw it up in 5 minutes.

            Stop defending them, you’re just embarrassing yourself.

            EDIT: Lmao, more patwaris are now editing Wikipedia pages to make it look like the font was released earlier than it was actually, ha ha ha.

            • “Look you patwari oaf”

              Uh-oh! Do you people have nothing else than your abusive language? C’mon grow up a little! It’s 2017 not 1917 where you could just abuse and get your way with anything!

              • Murtaza Saeed

                Lol this comment alone is proof enough that you have no defense and your argument is invalid and you are indeed a patwari oaf.

              • hassancent

                Font is not the only reason, JIT presented 4 solid reason, you can read in the document. One of them was : JIT sent letter to BVI asking for the beneficial owner and they received
                the reply from official sources that Maryam nawaz is the beneficial
                owner.
                people need to stop putting so much effort into this font thing.

          • Ahmed awais if you know a little bit about law firms and businesses in uk , they never use beta test softwares or any kind of softwares that is not certified to work in commercial environment and unlike Pakistan they buy branded computers that comes installed with genuine copies of softwares do you think someone was dumb enough to install a free beta test software on those computers ? no my friend all computers are handled by IT department and people who work on those computers are not allowed to make changes

      • Salman Qureshi

        Which Office was released to public in Feb 2006? when the documents were prepared. Please update after reading Wikipedia

        • Office 2007 beta was avalaible even in 2005. Search for Windows hardware engineering conference in 2206 where Bill Gates launched the free beta. All written on Wikipedia. Stop with your halfa** logic!

          Also the new Windows beta had received the updated new Calibri font in 2004. That could also have been used.

        • Take a look at the image I posted since you have an issue with me posting twice that you counted as 5. Look at the date in that sworn statement for when the font became available in the Windows OS. Yeah right it was 2004!

          • Kashif Surhio

            there is no image from you

      • Syed Zarar

        You’re referencing Wikipedia. Hold that thought and wait for the next article which is to be published on ProPakistani.

        • I wish I had time for battling with poor quality #badjournalism

          Also, no not everything I said was from Wikipedia being a contributor to Wikipedia myself I know how to fact check the information.

          Take a look at the picture and link I posted from the sworn statement of FontLab’s president on Quora. Don’t take my word for it! Take his!

          • Adeel

            Ahmed Bhai zardari ka suna tha k ek zardari sab pe bhaari par aj ap ko bhi dekh liya k ek Ahmed Awais sare propakistani pe bhaari ?
            Achi debate ki ?

          • Syed Zarar

            You’ve wasted enough time defending PML-N today, bro. Give it a rest.

            • You are right about that! Actually, I am waiting for something — and have nothing else to do at the moment! — Leaving now! It’s enough for next six months :) Cheers!

              • Syed Zarar

                Good riddance.

              • Immi

                You never replied to Vladimir Putin’s comment. I live in UK and work as Software Developer and second his comments

                “Ahmed awais if you know a little bit about law firms and businesses in uk , they never use beta test softwares or any kind of softwares that is not certified to work in commercial environment and unlike Pakistan they buy branded computers that comes installed with genuine copies of softwares do you think someone was dumb enough to install a free beta test software on those computers ? no my friend all computers are handled by IT department and people who work on those computers are not allowed to make changes”

  • Ali

    lol! Kafi zayad deep kaam hogya ye to..
    They even noticed the font.
    Nicely done

    • Ali Salman

      Why they did not hired someone to get them London land registry office records ?

      • M Waseem Akhtar

        I think London land registry office may not issue the title documents to anyone other than owners. They don’t follow orders of Pakistan courts.

      • Muhammad Hannan Ayub

        Well Actually BVI Confirmed that Maryum is actually the beneficial owner of Nelson and Neicoll Companies that own those appartments eventually making Maryum Nawaz as the beneficial owner. The font thing is done my forensic lab in UK not JIT

      • Muhammad Hannan Ayub

        Please read The News article titled “BVI Confirms Maryum Nawaz is the owner…” by Umar Cheema.

      • FuriousNinja

        You are definitely one of those people that will defend PML N no matter what. Itna bi andha ni hona chahia insan ko, wo bi ek prhay lkhay insan ko.

        • Kashif Surhio

          bhai mere, anparh or jahil me yehi to farq hota hy

      • ImranG

        Agar is ki sistar ki izat bhi noora lot le tab bhi yeh defend karen ge ji dekhen baji ki ghalti thi hamare qaid ka kya kasoor hai.

        • KMQ

          Though I don’t comment on ProPK these days, but yeh baat buhat budi lagi is liye commenting. Buhat budi baat hai dost, is tarah kisi ke ghar walon ke liye language use karna. I know you aap ek mohazib bande ho is tarah ki baat aapko zaib nahi deti.

          Ali Salman bhai ka jo bhi opinion ho hum us se ikhtilaf kar sakte hian but is tarah ki baat unke ghar walon ke liye intehai afsoos ki baat hai. Please agar aap ko baat samajh aae tu ya tu yeh comment delete kar dain ya phir apologize karain Ali Salman bhai se.

          • ImranG

            KMQ saheb, mein aise logon ko achhi tarah janta hoon aur yeh jo mein ne kaha hai yaqeen karen agar khuda na khwasta aisa ho gaya tu is ka behavior bhi aisa hi ho ga. Some people just put everything below their affiliations be it gherat, izzat, aqal, mother, sister practically everything.

            • ImranG

              Matlab yaar aik banda kitna andha aur beghairat ho sakta hai ke jab aik cheez saaf sabat ho gayee phir bhi kahe nahin ji dekhen woh tu 2015 mein beta tester ko jo font diya gaya tha tu us mein woh phateechar lawyer microsoft ka certified beta tester bhi ho sakta hai aur jo font abhi beta ke liye use karna thay us se us ne official document banane ke liye bhi use karta tha. Can you believe the insanity of this ghatiya pan. This is unbelievable.

            • KMQ

              Dost aap jo baat kar rahe ho woh alag hai aur main jo keh raha hon woh alag baat hai. Even aapki agar sari batain bhi theek hai tab bhi humain koi right nahi unko ghar walon ko is tarah abuse karne ka. Mujhe jo kehna tha maine keh dia baki aage aapki marzi.

        • Ahmad Khan Sabri

          Very bad show. Please ImranG kabhi kisi ki zaat pe baat na karain. Bhot afsos hua aap ki comment read kar k.

          • Ahmed Habib

            PTI youthias always do that, don’t worry! They are truly trained to abuse, and abuse! Example: Imran khan himself

  • Saud Bin Farooq

    I am in awe of this level of detailed fact checking..

    • Jawad Hussain

      it was done by professionals. London’s Radley Forensic Document Laboratory is lab for this purpose only i.e. to check the originality of docs……. hence its not actually detailed, but documents reached in proper hands for checking :D

      • Saud Bin Farooq

        Come on man.. How many times has it even occurred to you that you can authenticate a document simply by its font… To me.. This is completely mind boggling..

        • Logic

          When you are serious about your job and your job is to assess forged documents. Font and formatting is one of the major things.

  • common Pakistani

    Hats off to IK for nailing them and their pride. But mark my word they shall be again elected by this nation with high majority

    • Ali Salman

      I see too much pride in Imran in fact and humbleness in Nawaz, this doesn’t prove anything at the end. Nawaz has allegations but even Imran isn’t clean from this.
      Even after serious allegations of corruption and questions on morality by his own party member Akbar S Babar and by others there will be people voting for him as some have to prove they are not “patwaris”. If you hate corruption you will not gather corrupt around you..simple.

      • ImranG

        Your leader is a confirmed criminal while on IK you have allegations which are not proved by court of law. So take your bullshit elsewhere or keep in your mouth and chew.

      • Hasan

        Agar imran khan mein determination nahi hoti, tu 20 years tak Nawaz ki corruption kay khilaf na larta rahta. Beshak puri quom Imran Khan ki maqrooz hai.

        pride mein aur ‘khudi’ mein thora farq hota hai.

      • Key

        First Imran khan never hold any public office. Once he do, you and everyone can question what he did to tax payer money.

        Second, System can take imran khan and all others you want but first it have to start from somewhere and prime minister should be the first one if there are serious allegations.

        Third, if you’re following this case closely, then this JIT report is only needed for SC verdict and this third class law which have so many back doors and weak areas to save these big fishes, unfortunately these guys are legislators hence the backdoors.. Otherwise, Nawaz Sharef earlier three speeches and his son and daughter media statements were enough to put them in jail and get everything back, if there was a proper and equal law for everybody in this country. And that is an islamic law and a real Qazi whose not afraid of anything but Allah.Islamic law is the only one which to put everyone equally. Too bad, Media is controlling everything and most anchors as well as Imran khan give examples of west and how great their law is. While they’re totally illiterate to islamic teachings and laws. The only example they remember is from Hazrat Farooq-e-Aazam (Radi Allah Anhu). Otherwise there are many more examples which can be given in these type of cases.. And the biggest examples of west laws i know are Dr. Afia Sidduqie case in US, Altaf Hussain money laundering case in UK and what happened after Iraq war. There must be many more examples like this. They also protect their own interests and bigger fishes..Of-course they’re better than Pakistan in these type of cases but not perfect.

    • M Waseem Akhtar

      Do you think IK can survive the Sadiq & Amin test?

      If court rules out NS over Sadiq & Amin then there will be chain reaction and first hit will be on IK & Zardari.

      • Kashif Surhio

        to chain chalny do apko to problem nahi hogi na bal k is mulk or qoum ka hi bhala hoga,
        or
        yeh ______ sab k sab phansi per charhny chahyein (aunty gormint)

        • Key

          Totally agree.. If this chain reaction can take out all politicians. Then its the best thing can happen in this country. Next time these politicians will think 100 times before they talk any word in public. Let them all reap what they sow.

  • Is Quom Ka Kuch Nahi Hoga :
    Court JIT Banae K Bad Faisal Ek tak Pending Kar Deti hai :
    JIT Ka Result Koi Manta Nahi Us K Khailaf Jayenge :
    Wah Re Siyasat

    • Shahid

      bhai aaj kafi late ho gai ho :)

    • Ali Salman

      I first read your “Court JIT” as “Corrupt JIT” ;)

      1st article 187 doesn’t allow SC to form any JITs, 2nd ISI, MI have no capability to investigate any financial corruption if any..they can tape phones though. Judgement should speak and remarks should not show some grudge.

      • JIT Which Means Jugat (Mili Bhagat) Investigation Torture to Awam !

  • The first beta of Microsoft Office 2007, referred to as Beta-1 in emails sent to a small number of testers, was released on November 16, 2005. The Beta-1 Technical Refresh was released to testers on March 13, 2006. The Technical Refresh fixed issues in installing with Windows Vista build 5308.
    — Wikipedia!

    Beta was available way before than! Had the IT guy of the legal team used by them was a pro, he would have gotten access to it in 2005. Seriously, JIT?

    • Saud Bin Farooq

      So….. Not being sarcastic or anything.. But what are the chances of getting your ultra important business documents written by a law firm who happened to have a Microsoft tester on board with access to the beta version of the Microsoft office with this font which is just happenstance to be introduced for the first time in this version as the default format?

      • A lot when you work in a law firm in the UK or any other good country! Have you ever seen the IT jobs salaries in law firms? They hire the best of the bests!

        • Hafiz Shahzad

          the answer is in your own comment they hire the best of the best so you still think *London based forensic document laboratory* is failed to recognize the document as authentic?

          • Saud Bin Farooq

            I don’t think logic works here anymore…

            • You can think that. All I can do is respect your opinion about it!

          • Well, I am pretty much equiped to challenge the statement of any Forensic Lab! I have the right to do so! A paid lab is just what it is!

        • Deeb

          you sir is what we call a proper douche bag. What are you trying to prove here? A reputable forensic company will put its image on the line if it wasn’t sure? knowing very well it could be sued later on. Stop going on about this beta version and all. It was not available to the masses. Stop being a lil c*unt

          • And here folks we have another bigot probably a PTI supporter. Using abusive language when unable to argue with facts. Fo you really think your abusive language makes me look bad? C’mon grow a brain inside your head!

            I am so sorry for people like you. You are the very definition of what’s wrong with this country!

            • Zeeshan

              han to ja jakay JIT ko chalange karday yahan kun pakaraha hai

        • Hammad

          A lot? The document (if real) would most probably had been typed by some non-technical clerk or secretary. Or, more likely, it would have been modified from an even older template that would have been saved in the clerk’s PC.

          As for the early-release MS Office nonsense, any half-competent IT manager in a big firm certainly wouldn’t be deploying half-baked alpha or beta products in general-use PC’s in the organization.

          Can you even imagine the tech-support calls the IT guys would be fielding on a daily basis if they did that? And the risk of business downtime?

          Software updates at organizations with a well-staffed IT departments are usually done by a very deliberate and planned process, especially when the software in question is highly critical to the business process. You can forget about some overactive IT guy installing alpha/beta stuff in such cases.

          • >A lot? The document (if real) would most probably had been typed by some non-technical clerk or secretary. Or, more likely, it would have been modified from an even older template that would have been saved in the clerk’s PC.

            Sure! But what you don’t seem to know is that even that non-technical guys computer gets managed by the law firm’s IT department.

            >As for the early-release MS Office nonsense, any half-competent IT manager in a big firm certainly wouldn’t be deploying half-baked alpha or beta products in general-use PC’s in the organization.

            The fact that you think beta software is half baked goes to show what you know about software semantic versioning. Beta software doesn’t necessarily mean half backed or filled with bug software. It’s only a semantic milestone!

            >Can you even imagine the tech-support calls the IT guys would be fielding on a daily basis if they did that? And the risk of business downtime?

            That’s why software companies as big as Microsoft has enterprise software running in their companies with dedicated resources and agile updates.

            >Software updates at organisations with a well-staffed IT departments are usually done by a very deliberate and planned process, especially when the software in question is highly critical to the business process. You can forget about some overactive IT guy installing alpha/beta stuff in such cases.

            I never claimed that an overactive IT guy installed the beta software! That’s naive of you to even consider. I am just providing proof that the statement of Calibri not being present at that time is false! I don’t have to prove anything beyond that!

        • I work as a Software Engineer. No organization in their right mind would deploy a beta version (of anything) in a working environment for any work. There is a reason it is called a beta. It is full of errors and not recommended for professional use.

          • A world is left to be explored! Search for how the beta software works with enterprise sector. The dedicated team update license fee that gets paid and how enterprise software is not about bugs but more like what we call these days an agile software deployment routine. The fact that you think a beta software means bugs shows the lack of experience at your end. Software versioning is always intentionally subjective!

            • And the beta version is tested by the IT department ONLY. They can not update the company network until they have the official enterprise release, because they do not have the license to do so. Yes the enterprise has a different release date, which was November 2006, still after the forged document date.

              • You are wrong about that. It was the public beta release that happened back in Nov 2006. Also, the IT department doesn’t update the software! IT is different than developers. IT guys manage the companies’ network not the software! Software has dedicated support and the company like Microsoft itself manages the updates!

                • I have gone through the entire update process. The update is pushed by Microsoft and lands on the separate network for IT. It is the responsibility of the IT department to then push the updates to the company network. Enterprise updates do not work like normal customer updates. Think it as this way. I am working on a specific software version. Microsoft updates it and the next day I have the newer version on my corporate machine? No that is not how it works. Such major updates first need to be approved by management before deployment to company computers.

                  • I never said that! You are only assuming stuff from here on :) I cannot help you with that! That’s something you need to deal with on your own!

                • And I am not arguing with you any further because it is a lost cause. Have a nice day.

                  • I am at loss of words myself! Have a nice day, buddy!

                    • Immi

                      well well You never replied to Vladimir Putin’s comment. I live in UK and work as Software Developer and second his comments

                      “Ahmed awais if you know a little bit about law firms and businesses in uk , they never use beta test softwares or any kind of softwares that is not certified to work in commercial environment and unlike Pakistan they buy branded computers that comes installed with genuine copies of softwares do you think someone was dumb enough to install a free beta test software on those computers ? no my friend all computers are handled by IT department and people who work on those computers are not allowed to make changes”

    • Taha Najam

      Whoa, whodathunk we’d have someone more knowledgeable than the London based forensic document laboratory in the comments section of Propakistani!? JIT should have totally appointed you as its adviser.

    • Salman Qureshi

      Seriously Nooni Blogger….??? 5 posts on Beta software in One blog…. Seriously?

      • Something wrong with that? Wouldhave me make 5 fake accounts to do that like it is being done here by PTI supporters?

        • Shahid Saleem

          Well, for starters where is the evidence that the law firm used beta version of Windows or Word?

          Is there any?

          Then it is just conjecture by you that they MIGHT have.

          And for the record, what is your experience with IT departments of UK law firms used by the likes of rich people like Nawaz Sharif?

          None?

          So, what are we left with? Your word that they MIGHT have used beta version for serious client dealings? Does that make sense? Do lawyers strike you as the kind of people who will take risks with their data?

    • ImranG

      You Mr. Ahmad Awais are a pure mutmain beghairat aqal se pedal patwari.

      • Oh boy! Ap apni okat per utar aye? I am sorry for you dude. I am sure your parents taught you well!

        • ImranG

          This is fact I state. Aren’t you a mutmain beghairat. Prove me wrong. I can prove my allegation if you want.

      • محمد خالد فاروق

        آپکے الفاظ بتا رہے ہیں کہ آپکی پرورش بہت اچھی ہوئ ہے

        • ImranG

          Yes, I was taught to call a spade a spade.

    • Waqas

      The legal firms will not use beta programs on their servers due to bugs or potential security threats. No?

      • That is subjective. Also there is a huge difference in public software release and enterprise software release. Enterprise always gets the priority. Law firms are enterprise customers of us software companies. Their software is far better and fast paced as compared to the public software. Do you have any insights into what they were using? Is it public knowledge? No! A big no! Which means it is all subjective. JIT said the font was not available. I say that it was. It is called Hearsay in legal terms! It’s you said and I said!

        • Office 2007 was released to volume licensing customers on November 30, 2006, and to the general public on January 30, 2007. So in any case, the enterprise could not have the Calibri font as the document was signed in Feb 2006.

    • abobobilly

      NO COMPANY in their senses would ever use a Beta or testing software to conduct their business, unless it’s a company with very specific task of ‘testing’ such software.

      • Oh you are so wrong about that one. I have worked with several enterprise firms that donuse beta software! And when we are talking about enterprise software sector, semantic versioning becomes a little blurry. They get better things like that a major font upgrade before it becomes commericially or publicly available!

        Also this is all subjective! Where is the proof?

        • abobobilly

          Okay. Tell me then, how many companies upgraded to Windows 10 (from Windows 7) when it was made available. Let alone, an upgrade from Office 2007 to Office 2010 or 2013. You won’t find many, let alone companies upgrading to “BETA” software.

          • That goes to show you do NOT know how enterprise software lifecycle works. After working with enterprise companies like Pepsi, Coke, Standard Chartered, Orient, BBDO, Chevron, GSK, GE, Forbes etc. I can assure you the public software release dates have less to do with what happens at big firms!

            • Shahid Saleem

              I call BS on your claim. You have worked with those firms as OUTSIDER

              Contract for hire

              External work.

              You’re just a WORDPRESS PERSON

              How would you know what legal departments in the above listed companies do? LAWYERS HATE RISK so why would they use Beta software for critical tasks? Do you think if a lawyer missed a court hearing because their Beta version of Windows stopped working one day the judge will say “oh, that is ok! we’ll just reschedule!”???

              And on your LinkedIn profile… man, what a joke.

              WHAT
              A
              JOKE

              10 years of professional experience… and you graduated from UET 8 years ago. Exactly what kind of work did you do for Pepsi, Coke, Forbes, etc etc etc?

              Putting your EE degree to good use eh?

            • Key

              You forgot to mention Microsoft in that list. Just confess it man, you’re that microsoft developer who released MS Office 2007 beta to UK law firm in order to help Bibi Maryam to get that beautiful Calibri font on those contracts. Obviously, no one like Times new roman.

        • Mian Nauman Zahid

          lifafa dog of pmln :D

          • Shahid Saleem

            https ://pk. linkedin. com/in/mrahmadawais

          • Feel sorry for you! Ypur parents would have taught you better than to abuse others! Or at least try and read/follow Quran if you’re a Muslim. Coz a Muslim doesn’t abuse another Muslim!

        • Key

          Do you know this is not an open source software releasing public betas on Github?. The betas are only available for developers and beta testers. Not public or enterprise business environments and they strongly recommend to not use it in public environment even to beta testers. Also Office was never released before Feburary 2006 with Calibre font.

          I’m not sure why are you wasting time on ProPakistani. How about do some productive work. Just ask this question directly from Microsoft if there was Calibri font available in any Alpha/Beta/Enterprise release in Feb 2006. Take screenshot proof and save your beloved Don Noora Lohar and his daughter from this backlash. I’m sure Don will reward you greatly enough that your next two generations will live in prosperity.

    • You have no idea how software updates work in organizations, do you? First the “legal” person is not responsible for IT updates. That is the sole responsibility of the IT department. Secondly beta updates are only tested by IT department, and the organization network is only updated with official releases. The reason? You cannot update the organization to a version which is not officially released because you do not have the license to use it. Now please stop with all your non sense.

      • If only world was running in that ideal situation we had no issues whatsoever! And if you think lawyers do not participate in those updates getting pushed, I suggest you actually go and work for one to discover the complete opposite is true!

        • Alright sir I will do. Keep defending your corrupt leader.

        • Nabeel Ishfaq

          A question if I may, correct me if I fail to understand your learned wisdom. A law firm used a beta version exactly when after its release in November or even before the release? The beta version of the font or MSW 2007? before MSW 2007 beta how anyone could have used this font, since you are the expert on IT, I would really want to know.

    • Saqib

      Now the said wikipedia article protected from edits and reverted to an older versions and it doesn’t contain any info regarding the beta versions which you quoted above.

    • Kashif Surhio

      again released to small number of testers (those are registered testers if you know well enough)

  • idm af

    In ki itni tappar nahi ke ganjay ka kuch bigar sakain. Ayan rundi aur zardari kanjar khulay aam ghoom rhay hain un ko kuch nahi keh sakay.

  • Asif Khan PTI

    Hahahhaha nakal k lye bhi aqal chahye hotee hai

    • Taha Najam

      Does your Rs.1 laptop have Calibri font, LMAO?

    • Ali Salman

      Why have you painted Imran’s face, it looks like character of some horror movie.

  • Haider

    COME ON ! Font was made by itfaq foundry in 1965 and since then legal team is using it

    • FuriousNinja

      Exactly Sir :D

  • Shaykh ul Islam Tahir ul Qadri

    buri baat

  • Shaykh ul Islam Tahir ul Qadri

    lagta hai JIT kay pass funds ki kami thi. werna carbon decay ya carbon dating sa sahi date ka pata lag sakta tha kay document kab bna tha.

  • Muhammad Kamran

    Mazy ki bat. One of my friend arg me that font was in design phase in late 2004.
    I think when it was in creation phase, company provided font to them to test and sign some documents. Hahahah! Bechary N leagi. In logo ni be tho khud ko defend karna hai.
    yar agr reasoning karni b hai to logical reasoning karo

    • Their logic baffles me. Still stuck in their slave mentality. Agreeing that your leader is corrupt is not the end of the world.

      • Exactly, but they will never understand that. And they will vote for their so-called esteemed leaders again.

  • To the noonis shouting beta beta. An organization cannot update to a software version that is not officially released because the organization does not have the license to use it. And Office 2007 was released to volume licensing customers on November 30, 2006, and to the general public on January 30, 2007. The forged document is dated February 2006. So even if the law firm updated to the latest software, they could not do so before November 30, 2006 no matter when the beta was released.

    • Muhammad Kamran

      Lagtha hai noon leagi ithny advance ho choky hai k is document ko sign karny k lie beta fonts download kar leay. They did not follow what standard.
      Infact they are so lazy that while creating document, they even did not think about it.
      shame!

      • Lolz right. But that’s exactly what is called “chor ki daarhi mein tinka” ;)

        • Muhammad Kamran

          Is bar to chor ki dari mi pora draht (tree) atka hai

  • Correction

    windows vista beta was out in 2005 with calibri font http://jeffmilner.com/index.php/2005/07/30/windows-vista-fonts-now-available/ the same fonts were also usable in windows XP at that time..

    • Shahid Saleem

      Ok, so next you have evidence to show that the London Law Firm used by Nawaz Sharif’s rich children used Beta version of Windows or Word or copied fonts to XP computer just for the “fancy” look of the document?

      No?

      All right then.

    • imon

      This web is truly fake, see the first comment in 2009. Also see the cuttings are made smartly.

  • Sheldon Cooper

    Bhaio, N league k supporters k nahi many gy…ye aisa hi aisa “bhains k agy been bajana”

    • sahi baat keh di aap ne Mr. Sheldon Cooper, even your gf “Amy” will appreciate it ;)

  • Bling

    I am amazed at the persistence of N league defenders. And clueless rest. No one seems to know that
    – Beta (test) releases are not meant for production environments. Their EULA specifically prohibits and warns against that. So, no company – let alone a law firm – in their right mind would use test software on their machines especially when they carry confidential data.
    – When a document is printed, invisible forensic marks/fingerprints are left on the paper. I am sure forensic analysis took that into account as well.
    – Certified forensics carry evidentiary value. They are legally admissible documents across the globe in normal circumstances.
    And Imran Khan is andhun mein kana raja….Just to smoother fidgets of the rivals in the argument.

    • Just because someone is against the corrupt Sharif family people start to assume you support PTI. No, this is not about PTI and I could care less. It is about Sharif family only, and how they have looted the nation.

  • Muhammad Hannan Ayub
  • Jaun Raza

    i don’t care about what FONT was or not, but i do believe they are most corrupted family in entire region. As i am in dairy business and Sharif family own Anhaar brand which are so called Fresh pasteurized milk but in-reality they are importing AMUL milk powder from india and making Anhhar from it, Well india is the only country in world which produce buffalo milk powder and rest of world produce Cow milk powder. they are most corrupt family. they file returns and obey law in England , they do business in England they go for medical checkup in England and also their children live and study in England but for them Pakistan is to do corruption and ruling and Pakistani awam is also corrupt they deserve ruler like nawaz.

  • To sum it up in desi words; “CHOR KI DAARHI MEIN TINKA” :D

  • Fandango

    Why not simply do a forensic analysis on the ink for signature to get an accurate date on it?

    • Shahid Saleem

      It is a photocopy.

  • Fandango

    Also – Calibri font has multiple versions. It may be possible to do a deeper inspection of the document to see which version of Calibri it is and check the release date for a 100% irrefutable proof. Who can do this kind of analysis?

    • Shahid Saleem

      Well it would appear that company hired by JIT did the best analysis they could.

  • Mohammad Azeem

    So basically Nawaz Sharif’s whole Family is croupt..

    • Shahid Saleem

      Sun will rise tomorrow, Sky is blue, Sharif family is corrupt, it is not news.

  • Ahmad Khan Sabri

    ProPakistani plz iss tarah ki comment ko publish karnay ko rokain.

    Agar is ki sistar ki izat bhi noora lot le tab bhi yeh defend karen ge ji dekhen baji ki ghalti thi hamare qaid ka kya kasoor hai.

    kisi ImranG ki comment hay. Very bad. Parhay likhon ki mehfil mai yeh alfaz use karna…

  • The Calibri Font was introduced on the World Wide Web in 2003. MS Office made it official in 2007 after 4 years of testing. Simple truth made a news and everybody is like .. . LOL
    Amaal nahi badlo ge hukoomat esi hi milegi! Chaahe jo karlo :-p

  • Could be used before….But I guess it’s not the only proof…At least I hope….