Telenor Pakistan Submits its Bid for 3G/4G Spectrum Auction

Telenor Pakistan has submitted its bid for the auction of 3G/4G spectrum in 850 MHz band just moments ago.

Telenor Pakistan, as of now, is be the only bidder for the spectrum auction, we have checked with sources at PTA.

It maybe recalled that PTA will be auctioning 10MHz block from 850MHz spectrum on June 20th at a base price of USD 395 million, for which today is the last date for submitting the bids.

Mobilink, Ufone and Zong aren’t participating in the spectrum auction, we have checked officially.

Since there’s no other bidder, Telenor Pakistan is likely to get the spectrum at base price (or even at a lower value — depending on any co-channel interference)

We will update our readers with more details on spectrum auction as they will be available.

Tech reporter with over 10 years of experience, founder of ProPakistani.PK


  • Aon Bilal

    Ab Maza Aay GA Jub Telenor 4G Chaly Ga

    • Shahraiz Arshad

      3G sahi chalta nai lainey chaley 4G license

      • Hassan

        Ab 3G aur 4G donu doray ha shahraiz sahib… Basement main b full signal…every where only telenor

        • Shoaib

          2G Nahi chalta aur 3G ka to nishan hi nahi telenor kay.. Abh achay ki umeed rakhtay hain telenor say

        • PANAIA JUNE

          Khali Bid karne se hi Signal Ache Hogae ?

      • Aon Bilal

        Telenor 3g K Pass 5Mhz of 3G License Ha Or 4G License 10Mhz Ka Ha Jiska Matlab Telenor Or Zong 4G K Pass 10Mhz K Block Hon K Telenor K 90% User Pendo Production Hain Jiska Matlab Telenor 3g Par Over Load Ha Or 4G License 10Mhz Hony Ki Waja Se Speed Behtar Ho Jay G Or 4G User Bhi Kam Hain Or Islamabad Main Rehny Waly Bhi Achi Speed Enjoy Kerein Gay

    • dr.ad malik

      Abhi to 2 g say zidia speed nai hi ghadia key thara chalta hi tenlor ka 3g kahror pakka ma

      • Aon Bilal

        Mobilink Or Zong K Pass 10Mhz Ka Block Ha
        Or Ufone, Telenor 3g K Pass 5Mhz Ka Block Ha
        Telenor 3g K User Ziyada Hain Is Liay Speed Kam Ha Or Shaid Apke ilaqay Main Baki Company Ki 3G Ki Services Na Ho Or Jub Dosray network Ki 3G Or 4G Services Aa Jain G To Speed Behtar Ho Jay G Islamabad Main Tamam Company Ki 3G Or 4G Ki Services Hony Ki Waja Se Telenor Ki Downloading Speed Achi Ha Or Abhi App Ko Thora Or intzar Karna Paray Ga

    • Masroor Hussain

      no telenor already has the worst 3G of all. Their 4g being better will be a miracle,

  • SSyar

    kasmay,, aik to ye telenor walay 2G+3G wala package dedete hein aur wo chalta 2G pr he rehta hey.,.

    • Masroor Hussain

      absolutely right their 3G spped is the theoretical speed of 2G internet.

  • Ahmad

    wow telenor is going 4g..

  • YA Raza

    AAMiR Bhai 850 wali auction 20th June ko nhi the , 13th June ko the

  • YA Raza

    From Pta

  • Uzair Siddiqui

    850 MHz means that Smuggled american phones will work too. :-)

    • Aon Bilal

      American Model Zyda Tar 700,900,1700,2100, Spotted Hoty Hain Kuch 850 Bhi Hoty Hain

    • Aon Bilal

      Korean Model Main 850 MHz band 5 Use Hota Ha

  • The Blessed Guy

    Great for the employees of telecom sector. Else Zong & Mobilink were to rule while treating employees like cattle & sheep herd as the Chinese mentality is

  • Zawyar Ur Rehman

    Lets just hope telenor 4G doesn’t turn out to be a disaster like 3G was…

    • Aon Bilal

      Bhai Telenor 3g Mostly Pendo User Is Liay Speed Nahi

      • Zawyar Ur Rehman

        Can you please elaborate?

        • Aon Bilal

          ٹیلی نار کمپنی کے سب سے زیادہ استعمال کنندہ پاٹھی، پینڈو، دیہاتی لوگ ہیں انہیں کچھ اور آتا ہو یا نا آتا ہو پیکج ضرور لگانا آتا ہے اور ٹیلی نار کے یوزر زیادہ ہونے کی وجہ سے اس پر لوڈ زیادہ ہے یعنی بندے پر بندہ چڑھا ہوا ہے جس کی وجہ سے چھوٹے یا بڑے شہروں میں اس کی سپیڈ کم ہے اور فور جی لائسنس ملنے کی وجہ سے ٹیلی نار کی سپیڈ بڑھ جائے گی

          • iftikhar152

            Totally fazool answer hy ap ka , user koi bhi ho sakta hy , kia sirf shehar waly hi 4g use kr sakty hain . Just shame on your thinking

            • Aon Bilal

              پہلے یہ بتا دیں کہ پنڈ میں رہنے والوں کو پینڈو، دیہاتی نہیں کہتے تو اور کہتے ہیں
              اور کس نے کہا کہ پینڈو انسان نہیں ہوتے اور اگر شک ہے تو ٹیلی نار کیوں رورل ایریا میں کوریج پہلے دے رہے ہیں اس وجہ سے کہ انکے یوزر پینڈو زیادہ ہیں

              • hamad

                Great chabl insan.

          • halakoo

            what an arogant bas………..u are. racist and sick mentality.

            • Aon Bilal

              سچ کڑوا ہوتا ہے اور پینڈو کوئی گالی نہیں ہے

              • YA Raza

                Ap k comment say mujhy yaqeen ha k ap ka taluq b pind say ha , q k paathi word paindu k ilawa kisi ko pata nhi hota k kisy bolty hein
                Kher ap comment soch samjh k dia krein ap k comment jaa rhaana hoty hein , ap apni bat dosron ko zabrdasti samjhany ke koshish krty hein

                • Aon Bilal

                  بھائی میں ایک حقیقت بتا رہا ہوں جیسے موبی لنک کے زیادہ استعمال کنندہ کاروباری لوگ ہیں اور چھوٹے شہروں میں سب سے زیادہ موبی لنک استعمال ہوتا ہے اور پرانے موبائل یوزر موبی لنک استعمال کرتے ہیں اور یوفون راولپنڈی اسلام آباد میں لگتا ہے ہر بندے کے پاس یوفون ہی ہے
                  اور ٹیلی نار کی حکمت عملی رہی ہے انہوں نے مین شاہراہوں پر اور دیہات میں سب سے پہلے کوریج دی ہے جس کی وجہ سے اس کے زیادہ تر استعمال کنندہ دیہاتی علاقوں میں ہیں اور زونگ نے سب سے زیادہ توجہ پہاڑی علاقوں میں کوریج دی جس کی وجہ سے اس کے استعمال کنندہ ان علاقوں میں ہیں اور وارد کے سب سے زیادہ استعمال کنندہ لاہور میں ہیں یہ مثال دینے کا مقصد کسی کی دل آزاری کرنا ہرگز نہیں ہے اگر کسی کی دل آزاری ہوئی ہو تو اس کے لیے معافی چاہتا ہوں

                • Aon Bilal

                  پاٹھی لفظ چالاک طوطے کا مشہور ڈائلاگ ہے اور معافی چاہتا ہوں اگر آپ کو پاٹھی لفظ برا لگا تو

  • Ali_Amjad

    All the best Telenor :)

  • Zafar Abbas Rizvi

    4G on 850 MHz means low maintinance cost. 1 tower will have more coverage of 4g than Zong and Moblink due to 1800 MHz

  • Zafar Abbas Rizvi

    Sometimes I wounder why PTA and FAB are not auctioning their most precious spectrum 700 MHz? I mean its just only a way in space koi 5 marlay ka plot to nai jo ek baar bech diya toh bas khatam

    • PANAIA JUNE

      700 MHz ha PTA k paas kia ? mre pas Razr M ha Jiska 4G 700 pe chalta ha, to koi Umeed RakhuN me kia ?

      • Zafar Abbas Rizvi

        Meri jaan Makhsoos frequencies use hoti hyn mobile technology k liye dunya my un myn se ek 700 b hai. Yeh samajh lo ek raasta hai in air jo communication k liye use ho sakta gai. Har country apne area myn koi b frequency use kar sakti hai. FAB k paas 700 hi nai abhi 2600 MHz b available hyn

        • PANAIA JUNE

          to ye sare ek sath sale kar k khatam q ni karte ? or ek or baat ye 850MHz Neutral ha, to sab ye q kehre han k 4G Chalaega Telenor ispe ? Telenor ka 3G to bara Hi Ghatya ha.

          • Zafar Abbas Rizvi

            It is not feasible to run HSPA+ services means 3G on this frequency.

    • Raja Nauman Khalid

      I reckon parts of 700MHz spectrum in Pakistan are under military use.

      • Zafar Abbas Rizvi

        If Its true Miltary can use only 20 MHz, we can auction 40 to 60 MHz and still can avoid interference.

  • Zaki Uddin

    I think that band would be superior in terms of coverage, as we can expect better 4g reception but speeds would be compromised due to less bandwith

  • Aamir Shoaib

    telenor is managing its spectrum need by participating in auction. what about Ufone now.. because it is already weakest 3G career by coverage and bandwidth. mean..is it merging with Zong?

    • BADAR

      May be. Future is only Duopoly of Mobilink 4G and Zong 4G

      • Aamir Shoaib

        u cant ignore telenor which is backed by experienced professionals and heavy financials. telenor entered at No 4 in Pakistan but today it is No. 2 by market share. now telenor may give tough time to mobilink and zong with 4G.

        • BADAR

          Zong (Dhong) entered no 5 but now no 2

        • Adam-Building The Credible Web

          Telenor is no.1 in terms of Revenue, they overpass mobilink in Q3 2015

    • YA Raza

      Within this year Ufone may be part of China Mobile

      • Aamir Shoaib

        If it happens then CCP may reject merger request with the reason that it ll reduce competition.. waise ab ufone k pass aor koi chara b nhi.. dubai k sheikhon ki investment krne se to jaan jati hai.. infrastrcture pe kharch kiye bughair profit suck krr rhy hain by cutting HR related expenses like pension etc..

    • Mirza Moazzam Baig

      Ufone is pathetic in every aspect but in ads….

      • Ishtiaq

        Ufone ka network itna ganda ho chuka hai k call karney k liye das bar number try karo tou aik bar miley ga baki 9 bar recordings sunnay ko milien gi k filwaqt rabta mumkin nahi ya aapka matloba number is waqt band hai. jab k number on hota hai.

  • BADAR

    What is the difference between 1800 MHz and 850 MHz for 4G? Which one is best?

    • YA Raza

      Ab her bar aik he swaal ka jwaab thorri dein gy ham
      Badar Aunti
      ?

      • BADAR

        Pehle kab diya tha?

    • Zafar Abbas Rizvi

      Low frequency means high range.

      • Aon Bilal

        Telenor K Mostly User Pendo is Liay Is K Liay Best Ha

        • Zafar Abbas Rizvi

          Due to low frequency it has better coverage but low bandwidth. So speed will not be as good as 1800 MHz

          • Aon Bilal

            Kia Waja Ha Aik Jaga Ap Keh Rahay Hain Pta 700MhZ Frequency Ki Demand Kar Rahy Hain Or Ab Keh Rahay Hain K 850 MHz Ki Speed Kam Ho G 700 or 850 Ka Difference Batain

            • Daniyal Jahangir Shah

              The lower we go in frequency the better it is in terms of building or Foliage penetration. Zafar Abbas gave an incomplete answer, Frequency has nothing to do with bandwidth .A 10 MHz bandwidth (think of it as width of a pipe) in 850MHz or 1800 MHz will give you same bitrate from the Mobile tower (provided channel conditions are same for both freqencies) but the reason why a user would get higher data rate with higher frequency is because coverage of mobile tower with higher frequency will be less, which mean less number of users sharing the bandwidth.

              • Zaki Uddin

                Huh? I dont think so

              • Zaki Uddin

                Thos should clear out the confusion

                • Daniyal jahangir Shah

                  A picture says a thousand words, lower frequency means larger coverage footprint which means more users will share resource.
                  Higher frequency means less coverage footprint which means less less users will share resource.

                  There is a stark difference between bandwidth allocated by regulator and carrier frequency.

                  If still not convinced;
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon–Hartley_theorem

                  Trust me I am a Frequency Planning Specialist

            • Zafar Abbas Rizvi

              Progressed countries like USA and Korea myn LTE hamesha 2-3 Frequencies pe chalaya jata hai. One on a low frequency like 700 or 900 kyun k unki range ziada hoti hai aur strong signals hotay hyn like room aur basements myn b pooray signals aatay hyn. Laikin low frequency pe interference ziada hoti hy es liye speed pe asar parrta hy aur filtars require hotay hyn, us ko cover karne k liye saath barri frequency like 1800 aur 2600 use ki jaati hai. Jis ki wajah se wahan speed ziada aati hai. So 700 is best for range and 2600 is best for speed. Aur hum dono ko use nai kar rahay.

    • Raja Nauman Khalid

      It will have better coverage due to lower frequency but I reckon technically 1800 MHz is better, because in city areas it will be difficult to restrict 850 MHz band coverage in targeted area, thus interference might be higher.

      • BADAR

        interference between?

        • Aon Bilal

          ٹبے ،کھڈے، جمپ، ٹیلے، درخت، جھاڑیاں، وغیرہ

  • BADAR

    Mtlb Mobilink 4G se pehle aaraha hai Telenor 4G

    • Aon Bilal

      Excellently Qk Pta NE Zong 4G Launch Hony Se Pehly Warid 4G Lte Launch Nahi Hony Dia Tha

  • Shoaib

    3G to theek karlain pehlay yeh ek to signal nahi atay .. Agar abhi gaye to chalta nahi 3G.

  • Hassan

    Ab telenor ka 3G aur 4G donu doray ga ….Basement main b full signal…every where only TELENOR… Pura signal ..full speed… Full indoor coverage.

    • Shoaib

      Bhai spectrum purchase karnay kay baad bhi yeh sab hotay hotay waqt lagaya ga asa thori hai kay license mil gaya aur network theek hogaya .. Abhi to telenor aur rulaye ga bhai.

      • Aon Bilal

        Telenor NE 3g License Leny K Bad Sub Se Pehly or Sab Se Ziyada Coverage Di Thi Islamabad Main Or Yaqeenan 4G K License Milny K Bad Aysa Hi Ho Ga
        Wo Belt Band Kar Bethy Hain
        Ap 20 June Ka intzar Karain

  • INDIAN

    Great, INDIA also use 850 MHz 4G band..
    Upcoming INDIAN telecom auction, Telenor INDIA may bid 700mhz 4G band in India.

    • Zaki Uddin

      what is average speed of 4G in india ?

      • Aon Bilal

        Pakistan Se Kum Ha Qk Abadi Ziyada Ha

  • Hussain

    Why every one saying that telenor will become 4g. The license to be auctioned is a 3G LICENSE not 4G.

    • Zafar Abbas Rizvi

      License is tech. Nuteral and can be used as GSM and LTR services

    • Murtaza Saeed

      Where is this written?

      850MHz 3G will make things even worse, they will only increase coverage, but speeds won’t improve at all.

  • Shark Lasers

    Much needed.

  • Murtaza Saeed

    850MHz isn’t going to help Telenor, they’ll just jack up the prices, but their speeds will still suck.
    Such a small spectrum in a low frequency band will only mean better coverage than 1800 or 2100, but also half the bandwidth.

  • Adam-Building The Credible Web

    Bravo Telenor! Despite higher tax regime, government unfriendly policies towards telecom sector its investment of 40 billion rupees shows it commitment and long term plan for Pakistani market. With this investment the rumors about Telenor loosing interest in Pakistan and shifting its investment towards India will also die. TP Rocks……………………

  • Ali K

    Telenor didn’t buy 1800 Mhz for 210m USD….. a better frequency for 4G .. now when the competition is tough and getting ahead andbetter.. they have no choice but to buy 850Mhz at 395m USD… the question is will PTA sell at base price or will they have some interference issues and Telenor will only pay a lesser fee…. Lets see… Also do we have good 850 Handsets in the market ..I am not sure its the case…

    • YA Raza

      US $ 395 Million for 2G,3G,4G
      US $ 210 Million for only 4G

      Telenor ny jo 2G ka license 2004 mein purchase kia tha wo 2019 mein expire ho raha ha , or b kafi sari reasons hein , for those reasons it is a great step by telenor i think

      • Ali K

        I think they are starved for frequency now, they will need to retain their 900/1800 Mhz in 2019 or maybe buy some other band…..in 1800Mhz only.

  • mohsin raja

    very bad progress from PTA, i think it’s not good time for bid

  • Fahad Ali

    Zong and Mobilink (Warid) already have 4G. Telenor has applied. Why Ufone didn’t apply? :O

    • Aon Bilal

      بھائی بہت بڑی گیم ہے وارد کی طرح کا کوئی چکر ہوگا

  • Zaki Uddin

    Oh, you are an expert!
    But we hear from every where that higher frequencies transfer data much faster compared to lower resulting higher throughput, NO?

    • Daniyal jahangir Shah

      If you look closely, bandwidth at higher frequency is cheaper and you normally get more for your money. Below is list of UK operators that won 4G licences in 2013. you can see 800 Mega-Hz band is far more expensive than 2.6 Giga-Hertz frequency. e.g British Telecom (BT) got more bandwidth than Hutchison 3G (3Mobile) but paid less

      Winning bidder

      Spectrum won

      Base price
      ………………………………………………
      Everything Everywhere Ltd

      2 x 5 MHz of 800 MHz and

      2 x 35 MHz of 2.6 GHz

      £588,876,000
      …………………………………………….
      Hutchison 3G UK Ltd

      2 x 5 MHz of 800 MHz

      £225,000,000
      ……………………………………………
      Niche Spectrum Ventures Ltd

      (a subsidiary of BT Group plc)

      2 x 15 MHz of 2.6 GHz and

      1 x 20 MHz of 2.6 GHz (unpaired)

      £186,476,000
      ……………………………………………………….
      Telefónica UK Ltd

      2 x 10 MHz of 800 MHz

      (coverage obligation lot)

      £550,000,000
      ………………………………………………………….
      Vodafone Ltd

      2 x 10 MHz of 800 MHz,

      2 x 20 MHz of 2.6 GHz and

      1 x 25 MHz of 2.6 GHz (unpaired)

      £790,761,000
      ………………………………………………………………
      Total

      £2,341,113,000

      • Zaki Uddin

        Oh O.O
        so thats the game, thank you for taking the time and clarifying ?