LHC Questions PTA & Religious Ministry Over the Issue of Blocking P*rn

There has already been a lot of discussion on the penetration of obscene content in the society. Considering the young ones, we did a story in past to raise the voice against this circulation of p*rn content.

And not so long ago, once again we suggested the concerned authorities towards this serious issue and may be this is the time we all are in a good position to witness some actions.

In this regards, recently a petition was filed in the court to take necessary measures for the rapid spread of illegal content in the society, specifically obscene one.

Petitioner, Sohaib Ahmed, went off the view that concerned authorities should take some action to prevent the increasing penetration of this evil in our society.

He said that it is the responsibility of the state to prevent prostitution, illegal drugs, gambling, printing and publication of obscene content in the society.

He said:

Fearing surfing of pornography by children and employees, parents and businessmen have urged the government to introduce filtering devices on the internet.

Therefore he asked court to direct Ministry of Telecommunication to block these websites.

Court’s Action:

Lahore High Court has issued a notice to Pakistan Telecommunication Authority and Ministry of Religious Affairs to submit their viewpoint over the control of circulation of explicit content on the internet.

Yesterday Justice Malik Shehzad Ahmed Khan of Lahore Highcourt, asked the correspondents to give their comments on the prevailing issue within the period of four weeks.

Pleader, Advocate Fahad Ahmad Siddiqi, said that necessary steps are required for the eradication of obscene content.

He said that parents and teachers have repeatedly urged government and concerned authorities to prevent this issue by introducing filtering devices and denying access to such websites.

In a state like Pakistan where Muslim law and constitution prevails, it is clearly stated that all the Muslims should lead their lives according to the basic principles of Islam, he said.

He said that children are very much vulnerable to this content and may slip any time, even unintentionally.

Via Express Tribune


  • Xahid

    I don’t think they will implement it, it’s so easy, look at Saudia, they’ve already installed a great firewall at their Main Gateway, so why don’t we ?

  • REHMAN

    we want p*rn and it our right!!!!govt should stop interfering people freedom

  • Basit Ali

    Until the government realizes that they should block these sires I would advise all of you to set up the following DNS servers by openDNS in an attempt to block unsafe and unsuitable sites.

    208.67.220.123
    208.67.220.123

    I know there are numerous workarounds to this but not all kids know about them.

    Regards

    • Ahmed

      This should be done at router level by entering DNS server settings there and routers should be password protected. This is possible in every router.

      • Ahmad

        Because of buggy firmware of PTCL provided ZTE ZXDSL 831 AII router, once you change DNS in router settings, they will remain intact until you not restart your router then once restarted, you will be back to PTCL one again.

  • Salman Qamar

    I think a big amount is paid by these(P*rn) sites to Pakistani government and PTA for not banning their contents. Other wise why there is two opinions. Lastly The Character of Pakistani People is very _______, even islam does not allow to watch such contents but still pakistan is __________

    [Comment Edited]

    • Shahid Saleem

      Well if you understood that it is technically impossible to block p*rn, you wouldnt think of the conspiracy theories.

      Even google images shows sometimes porn images when you use safe mode. if google can’t do it, how do you expect anyone else to?

      • :@shahid

        shahid saleem aap ko marney k baad qabar main internet ki saholat chaiye ? munkir nakeer jab qabar main sawal poochney ai gay na tab pata chaley ga.

  • Fakhre alam

    If you think watching p*rn is ur right then you’r a sick. Get a life man.

    • Shahid Saleem

      Have you heard of PGP? I was watching an interview with the author today. It was at

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka7BqjmaWJA

      He was asked question “arent you upset about bad guys using your software?” and his reply was “yes but there was no way to get it to the good guys without letting the bad guys get it.”

      Here, in Pakistan when we talk of banning porn at PTA level, it works opposite way: there is no way to block “bad sites” without also blocking “good sites”.

      Nowhere in the world where they have filtering is it possible to avoid this problem. NOWHERE. And worse case is that government takes control of filtering list and then starts filtering sites that are critical of government (but pro-people). And they also start adding sites to list that for some reason they want to block. Have you forgotten how supreme court and PTA blocked ENTIRE DOMAIN blogspot.com for more than two years because of 12 urls on that site?

  • Kuo yar pasa lgwana chate ho fzol kam pa, jec na dekna hai wo cd per b dak lye ga.

  • Waqas

    What’s wrong with the word “porn”?
    Why is the author of the article putting an asterisk in the word, “p*rn”?

    • Primarily ethical point, leaving behind other factors.
      For instance the word “shit” is very much common in our daily life, morally we shouldn’t say it, this frequently.

      • Shahid Saleem

        EXACTLY WHAT ethical point!

        There is nothing wrong with saying the word “porn” because NOTHING about the word is wrong. Do you also say “br*be” or “st*len goods”?

        It describes something, it isn’t in any way wrong to use it.

    • HYPOCRITE

      THE AUTHOR IS ONE THOSE HYPOCRITE TYPE WHO IS APPEARS ALL PIOUS AND VIRTUOUS FROM OUTSIDE BUT IS TOTALLY OPPOSITE FROM INSIDE.

      MY QUESTION IS WHY AUTHOR IS GIVING PUBLICITY BY WRITING ARTICLE ABOUT IT IF HE/SHE CAN’T EVEN WRITE THE WHOLE WORD “PORN”

      INN JAISEY LOGON’ KI KAMI NAHI HAI ISS MULK MAEN’

      • han g kami ap jasey pagl*n key be nehi hai :p sare key sare assemblies mei byth gay hain tabhi tu yeh hal hai mulak ka :D

  • Pk

    Gov should have system to block porn and fake site for pakistan

  • Fareed

    I think its completely on you if you wanna watch it you can watch after the ban therefore its our mindset which needs to be changed.

  • Manzoor Akbar

    Yar just use K9, which will block all porn sites, and it is the best and free.

  • Alam

    Aamir i wanna make a guest post. Please email me.

  • dell

    mujey samjh nahi ata k hum ney islam k naam pe paksitan hasil kiya tha tu yahan islami qawaneen q nahi hain,agar isi tarah rehna tha tu india k saath alag honey ki zarorat kia thi.shame on pakistani government ,block all porn :@.

    • Salman Qamar

      اسلام کے نام پر لیا تھا اسی لئے تو اسلام صرف نام کا نظر آتا ہے۔

  • this won’t be happening any time soon
    people in PTA doesn’t want this to happen in my opinion!

  • Saad Durrani

    You know there is a something more worse than porn at Napier Road in Karachi; and something more in Lahore.

  • ISP

    this can be a huge blow to all ISPs of Pakistan!

  • Zeeshan Shahid

    Blocking porn is not just an Islamic initiative, look at UK. They have content control on their TVs, cell phones, and internet. If you need the content control removed, you have to visit the service provider, submit proof that you are at least 18 year old, only then they allow the content. The only difference here is that you have to control the content without any exception, how hard should it be? I would really like to know the reason government gives for NOT controlling internet content as of yet.

    P.S. Those giving Saudia example, they are only controlling the internet; cable tv p*rn is not controlled over there. And those derailing he thread by real evil in society, please learn to stay on the topic! Just because there’s prostitution/s*xual misdemeanour in real life, it doesn’t mean it’s ok for my son to have its videos just a click away!

    • Shahid Saleem

      Correction: in UK content controls on internet are OPTIONAL. Not MANDATORY like people want here. Also do note that the primary target of their laws (digital economy 2010 law for example) is against copyrighted stuffs (movies, music, etc) on p2p systems and sites like thepiratebay. Porn is not a target.

      Another correction: people in Saudi arabia use SATELLITE TV mostly, not CABLE TV. In fact i think you will only find cable tv in private compounds and is not regulated by the government.

  • HYPOCRITE

    LHC SO ITS LAHORE HIGH COURT HMMMM…… OK LETS SEE, STAYING WITHIN THE BORDERS OF LAHORE CITY LET ME GIVE VERY GENEROUS COUNT OF INTERNET USERS IN LAHORE 9% AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT INTERNET IS AND AMONG THESE 9% HOW MANY GOES ON PORN SITE OF COURSE LESS THAN 9% OBVIOUSLY……

    HOW MANY PEOPLE IN LAHORE KNOWS WHAT HERA MANDI IS, AND WHERE ITS LOCATED AND DOING BUSINESS FOR CENTURIES ANSWER IS 100% OF ADULT LAHORIS KNOW THAT. AND OF COURSE THESE PIOUS VIRTUOUS PEOPLE IN LHC KNOW THAT TOO. SO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE ABOUT IT WHICH IS SOMETHING RIGHT THERE IN THEIR OWN CITY, YES THE ANSWER IS ZILCH NADA NOTHING ZERO. AND THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT PORN ON INTERNET.

    TOTAL HYPOCRITE TOPI DRAMA.

  • TALHA

    Mayra jitna deen ka or rohanyat ka mutallah( study ) hy es say yah sabit hota hay k dar-asal( in reality ) insan k kirdar per es ki soch or khyalat(thoughts)ka itna gahra asar hota hay k wo es ki shaksiat ya kirdar wo alter krdaytay hain, so es main koi 2 openion nahi hain k hum nay jis ghayr-islami culture ko aadopt kr lia hay modernism k naam per es nay aj hamain es haal pay pohncha dia hay k barbaad horhay hain….wo nizaam ghayr muslimo k liay acha tou hoskta hay laykin hamaray liay nahi,hum per jin khayal ki bombardment ki jarhi hay media,internet,advertisment k through yah qasam khuda ki “brain washing” k alawa kuch nahi….i want shariah implemented in pakistan

    “ALLAH PROTECT YOU ALL from fitna of Dajjal”

    • waleed

      agreed

  • TALHA

    Mayra jitna deen ka or rohanyat ka mutallah( study ) hy es say yah sabit hota hay k dar-asal( in reality ) insan k kirdar per es ki soch or khyalat(thoughts)ka itna gahra asar hota hay k wo es ki shaksiat ya kirdar wo alter krdaytay hain, so es main koi 2 openion nahi hain k hum nay jis ghayr-islami culture ko aadopt kr lia hay modernism k naam per es nay aj hamain es haal pay pohncha dia hay k barbaad horhay hain….wo nizaam ghayr muslimo k liay acha tou hoskta hay laykin hamaray liay nahi,hum per jin khayalat ki bombardment ki jarhi hay media,internet,advertisment k through yah qasam khuda ki “brain washing” k alawa kuch nahi….i want shariah implemented in pakistan

    “ALLAH PROTECT YOU ALL from fitna of Dajjal”

  • caveman

    also – if we block porn we should stop people stealing software, music and movies. or is that just an acceptable part of our faith to steal without giving royalty to people who created the content in the first place.

  • We should not block/filter Internet because this will effect on speed. When heavy data/traffic will flow to one system this will create bottle neck and business, home users will suffer from low speed in both downloading and browsing. On the other hand this could be voluntary filtering; If some one is interested in “Parental Control” then they can get it enable it.

    otherwise bangging PTCL or PTA gateway is not a very big deal for youngsters today :)

    We should educate them and then give them freedom but If we don’t educate them and only block and restrict their access then case could me more worse than it is now. I hope you understand…

  • And you know people just sue such things in LHC just to get some cheap attention :)

  • Use Upen DNS
    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

  • Mani

    Here is some Possible counter effects if PTA ever try to ban porn in Pakistan…

    According to Google trends, 80% Pakistani broad band internet traffic is used to search, find, watch or download porn, and if you don’t know, we even got the name (Pornistan) just search google.

    In fact at least every broadband user sometime watched porn or still occasionally watching it on their free times. (Some hypocrite will claim that they never watched it, well the ugly truth is that, they openly talk against it but in privacy enjoy watching it) So after banning it, we will see a decrease in broadband internet usage to 80% or at minimum 60%, that’s mean 60% loss to DSL and Wireless Internet providers, and since Telecom sector (mobile internet) is also a main source of downloading porn clips on mobile, without it their will be no charm of getting gprs or edge facility on mobiles for 60% Pakistanis, and 3g will be flop even before its introduction.

    Banning on source will open up 100 more ways.

    Mobile content distributors will enjoy this ban. and 1000s of corner shops, cabins will provide clips and other content.

    Since its the technology era, flash disk will see a boom in sell, and everyone will carry GBs of porn in their pockets

    Blue CDs & DVDs sell will climb up in no time and street level distributors will supply it on demand.

    Many users will just quit Internet or down its usage to minimum. and will find their needs in local market.
    Due to low daily visits, websites (specially local sites and blogs) will be suffered the most.

    Even PTA will start losing money and soon will become another Railway or PIA.

    Their are more effects and writing all of them are not possible due to limit of comments words.

    Most likely PTA already cross examine these issues that’s why they don’t implement firewall.

    Now The question that is asked so many time comparing Pakistan with Saudi Arabia or UAE. I just got one question for them.
    کیا پاکستان میںدس فیصد بھیان ملکوں کے لیول کی قانون کی پاسداری کی جاتی ۔؟

    So how can we get rid-off this if we don’t like it (I don’t believe if someone say I don’t like it) OR protect our miners. (that’s an serious issue)

    Answer: minors should be cared and monitored closely by their guardians, since internet is not the only source of getting porn.
    They can get it on mobile by just downloading it or in case of slow speed they can just visit a Mobile content distributor. These distributors are now everywhere. openly they just distribute Songs and Ringtones but God knows how many of them distribute nude pictures and porn clips.

    Some parents will claim that we don’t give mobile phones to our children, well, then they will use thumb drives. which are easily available for 200 to 400 price with GBs in capacity. Its the technology era and they can use tiny MP4 players and in this case they even don’t need computers.

    For computers open DNS is very simple and user friendly solution.

    baat kafi lambi hogai hei. mein porn ka advocate nahi hoon magar monafiq bhi nahi hoon k moo mein ram ram kahoon aur bughal mein churi rakoon….

    agar porn ko completely is mulk se eliminate kia jaskta hei tu mein aap k saath hoon. lakin agar aap logon ka maqsad eik source ko band karna aur 10 mazeed sorce kholna hai tu phir brahe karam mujhe maaf kardain, mein is ki sab se ziyada mukhalifat karoon ga. ye tu aisa hei jeise kisi water pipe mei kafi sorakh ho, aur eik ko band karke pressure dosre sorakhoon ko montaqil kia jaye.

    hamein is mulk se pehle corruption khatam karna hogi. is mulk me qanoon ki baladasti nafiz karana hogi jo sab k liye barabar hona chahiye. phir yeh sochna chahiye k hum bhi UAE aur Saudi ki barabri kar sakte hein.

    Think about it,

    • Shahid Saleem

      For example, I am not going to give up my 2mb (upgraded to 4mb) DSL connection whether or not porn is blocked (or facebook or whatever). Even at home I use it for work purposes. Similarly I think it won’t affect internet usage. In places wher eporn is blocked like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, etc internet usage is still growing. So I dont think it will affect broadband much.

      But yes I agree I think people will start using torrent sites for stuff and share that way.

    • waleed

      what i concluded from your article is that porn can be blocked by:
      1. impart of religious education alongside modern education.
      2. economic activities to help people have a busy schedule.
      and etc.

  • Techno Expert

    Blocking is not the solution

    crating awareness and hate against pornography is the solution.

    • waleed

      it is very difficult to create awareness against such things bcoz firstly,our culture does not permit to even talk about such things openly in the society.secondly,this thing attracts our natural behaviour and by bringing it out in the open there is a fair chance that those who r away from it can also be made prey of it.

  • Gree_

    ..lol…it’s internet.It’s ok to say porn.

  • Rizwan

    We should do something regarding this serious issue, personally I am going to write a letters to the concern authorities, May Allah help me in doing this

  • waleed

    i totally agree…..KSA and other middle eastern countries are winning the war against this menace.We should avail their expertise in eradicating this evil completely from our society.

  • noman

    there are lot of adult bad picture contrnt on the net and it raising thebad activitiez in the society so please take action on that issue to save pakistani nation. it a humble request if u love pakistan and your family also.