Feb 7, 2011

109 Comments
  • Rameez Kakakhel

    PEC doesn’t even allow professional engineering courses to register easily.
    And their method of registering graduate engineers (if their batch is the lucky one) is way too stupid. They don’t even accept HEC attested docs :P LOLZ! They prefer a Grade 18 Engineer over it :P
    .
    My support for B.Tech Guys, though I have seen some of them getting Jobs and Education at universities but it is true they don’t get much promotions.

  • shoaib

    I did b-tech(hons) in 2000,still hope.

    ZULM TO ZULM HA
    AKHIR AIK DIN MIT JAY GA.

  • Fakhre alam

    I think its not right to make b tech equivalent to BE. Cuz their is a lot difference in the courses. I think btech is not even half of BE. Give them some status of course,

    • ahmar

      kami nay b.tech waly nay 7 year engineering kye hoti hy 3 year DAE & 4 year B.techor B.sc waly nay 4 sal srah gand dye hoti hy

      • Uzair

        thek kaha ap ne b tech walay to ye sb cheze DAE me he perh lete hain jo BSC waly BSC me ja kr perhtay hain

        • Fakhre Alam

          hahahaha

    • Uzair

      jnab ap wrong ho jo b b-tech krta hai us ne pehle DAE kya hota hai and for your kind information totaly engineering base per hota hai or conceptual hota hai as compare to FSC

      • B-Tech: Holder

        Then what is different between B-Tech: and BE
        when you said DAE=FSC
        then why B-Tech isn’t

    • raza siddique

      i have done b-tech [hons]
      and i agree with what you just said,

      besides most of the b-tech students cheat in exams thus they cant be equivalent to BE, although they should get some status and the calibre of the education must improve.

    • sajjad

      i think you dont have a little bit idea about the B-tech course. you people how did BE/BSC are nothing, if you people are competent then Pakistan should lead the india in the engineering field. but we are the losers because our Govt supports to wrong peoples in this field. if Govt supports to B-tech 1 % against BE/BSC. our country will defiantly become at the upper end. because the credibility of B-tech graduate is far away from BE/BSC. they doest have a chance in Pakistan due to monopolization of PEC against B-tech. Look in overall world exercises,

    • B-Tech: holder

      My dear Fakhre Alam: it is right there is a difference? and the difference is BE holders have theoretical knowledge only they cannot play a Practical role in fields mostly and B-Tech: holder have 70% practical knowledge, and they playing their role in fields. now what u say!

      • Fakhre Alam

        then why all research journals have papers published by engineers who have done bs , ms and phd and not a single paper is published by btech. do u have any idea what research is?

  • ZIFAH

    mR Fakhre alam, Your comments are such a bullshit, yB-tech course should improve for B-tech, but you know b tech guys passes first dae (totally related to engineering basics) and you guys do fsc and dont have any basic concepts, in pakistan here every thing is wrong, dae guys should have more seats as compare to fsc students,

    • asim zuberi

      Agreed, yeh field main hum say seekh kur hum hi pur order chalatay hain. Yeh MUQADAS GAYEE (Bafelow) hain bhai.

    • Hamza

      salam bro mene lahore punjab pakistan se aik private institute se diploma kiya he civil technology me ab me confuse hn k b.tech karoon ya bsc?????
      iski kuch detail bhi bata daien please
      +93132233657

      • raza siddique

        walikum as salam

        in case of civil, i think you should go for b-tech.
        b-tech mai jao app kiun k app ko eventually bahar jana hoga civil ka scope nahi hai pak mai,

      • Ali Khan

        go for BE/BSc Engg, B.Tech is good but there is no any scope for talent in Pakistan.

  • bilal shah

    bro how old infos u have
    b tech is upgraded in to (bsmt)
    and the cource is comp;etly equalvent to bsc oR be
    i m doing (bsmt) 4m uet
    for further details check uet web page

    one thing keep in mind
    engineering never change
    but technology changes eyery day

    proud to be a TECHONOLOGEST

  • noman islam

    hm ye nahi kehte k hame Eng kahain hm ye kehte hen hme hamara haq mile.

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  • http://www.propakistani.pk zaka

    can Fsc students apply to do B-TECH???? repyl me plz

    • asim zuberi

      yes why not ?

    • asim zuberi

      but only in private institutes, i am not quite sure you may check.

    • rukhban

      YES!! 100%

    • ahmar

      not is kay lya DAE zarori hy

    • zaidi

      nooooo

    • hammad

      yes you can apply

      • Beasty Fsl

        nahi kar skta

    • Uzair

      no

    • Beasty Fsl

      nhi

  • ch asif tarrar

    i have b.tech degree,and i have been working in one of Govt Engg Deptt for 21 years.In this long time i have not seen eaven a single Competent Bsc Engineer,God bless this country.These are Diploma Engineers who r running these engineerig departments.i think President Asif Ali Zardari should take action and issue Executive order to resolve this issue,this is the only way.

    • asim zuberi

      yes mr Asif you are right with some extent. i am agreed with you that MR ZARDARI may have to take intrest in our matter of promotions, i am also in a autonomus body having 20 years of service also done M.TECH but didnt get promotion. you know BSC/BE degree walay MUQADAS gayw (bafallow)hain that bcoz they getting each n every benifit. eg getting hiered in bps 17, getting upgradation in 8/10 years, having engineering allowance of 10 thousands n more n more n more benifits…………. !

    • ahmar

      u r right humhara DAE hi B.Sc engineer kay lie kafi hy

      • aamir khan

        u r 100% right

    • http://www.facebook.com/H.Furqan786 Furqan Prince

      thanks asif bhai for the awareness… aj mera uoog ki first merit list main btech k liye
      naam aageya hai… but apni zindgi k 4 saal waste karne se acha hai k privite Bsc Engg hi kar li jaey… ku k Pakistan ka future itni aasani se badalne wala nhi….

      • Hamza

        give me the better one advice bro what should i do? i am diploma holder in civil technology

      • Uzair

        agr ap me ability hai to ap k liay diploma b boht hai or agr nahi hai to bsc b be kar hai

    • Umair Khan

      sir doosto mene d.a.e kai he in electrical..me aligarh institute sy…btt ap mjhe smjh nae ara k B.tech kro ya BSc..ku k koe bolta he B.tech ka scope nae hy agy…….plxx gudie me dosto…

      • ahmed waqas

        agr parhna ha to bs if time pass then b tech

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  • IJAZ ALI

    PEC KO CHI KE WO B.TECH KO B.SC ENGG KE BARABAR KARI

  • ABDUL HAFEEZ

    AA
    The graduate of technology B-Tech(04 year)now should be equal to Bsc engineering/BE cause max course outline has been changed now, but after checking the syllabus cause each university has different course outline .The candidates which have studied same to BE course/subject should be equal to B.E and should be given rights them and don’t be jealous to each other cause B-Tech are powerful in practical comparatively. Silent msg to all Thanks

    • asim zuberi

      Aoa,
      Mr Abdul Hafeez n Other Friends
      PEC Violating the Orders/rulling of Supreem Court Who Given the states of equivilancy to btec n bsc/be. as well the course concern,when the UET, NED, MUET Universities awarding degrees to B.TECH it means they satisfied with the Syllabus, they have fear from BTECH Engineers, Aap ko Pata hay k Our president also a Diploma holder from UK, koi JIALA Hamari Aawaz President Tuk Pohncha day BHAI.

      • http://facebok farzand ali

        plz giv me information b.tech ka kea stats ha normal education systm mn kea hum kisi uni se Master kr sakte hn? mn msc invoirlment krna chata hn

  • http://facebok farzand ali

    i wants information that a b.tech pass person gets addmission in master program any bublic university? lik ma socialogy MA invorlmetel science like other.ya B.tech pass ki equalation kea hsc ki rulls mn plz help me my dears

    • ANNUS HASHMI

      GUYS,JUST FOCUS ON ur studies,b-tech course outline,our books,theories all is same,we have same knowledge to engeeniers,so guys we have to prove our self.

  • ANNUS HASHMI

    guys u should goo to the hec webside,and macth the bee and b_tech course outline u will see that there is not much differene,even our books and writers are sama,actually in pakistan goverment is giving piority to bee,so jobs oppertunities are enough for bee students,

  • shahzad Ahmad

    hi i’m a b.tech student doing in university of Gujrat.we should not focus on such kind of things after getting admissions in b.tech or after completing degrees.we should just focus on our studies.some day someone will take steps to give us equality to Bsc.we should wait fot that day & carry on to hardwork for our country.

    • asim zuberi

      Brother I have 25+ years of service on DAE basis and done my BTECH in 2006 But still have no benifit in service also have done M.TECH in 2010, processed the case in department but nothig got out, FRUSTRATION….. FRUSTRATION….. FRUSTRATION………….!

    • farooq abid

      yar koi btay ga k B tech k bad hum is ko graduate ki jaga pe use kr sakty hen nk nhen

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    English Comprehension Engineering Drawing – I Applied Chemistry Applied Physics Applied Mathematics – IComputer Application – I
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    Communication Skills Engineering Drawing – II Applied Mechanics Applied Thermodynamics Applied Mathematics – II
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    Applied Mathematics – III Computer Programming Industrial Materials Auto CAD Mechanics of Materials
    Semester 4
    Industrial Electronics Mechanics of Machines – I Fluid Mechanics Applied Mathematics – IV Machining ProcessesMachines Design – I
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    Engineering Economics Machine Design – II Advance Thermodynamics Mechanical Vibration Industrial Management
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  • syed Abrar Ahmed Shah

    Baki tmam forgien countries mein B-tech ko BE sy ziada value dy jati hai pr yhan hi sirf aisa chl rha hai k B-tech ki degree undefined hai Q B-tech waly 7 saal ki Study k bd Engineer Bn jaty hain woh bhe undefined aor BE Waly sirf 4 saal mein hi Full engineer bn jaty hain Q kya woh aasman sy utry hain kya plz Chief Justice sy appeal hai k woh is ka khud notice ly

    • asim zuberi

      Mr Abrar It is proven in our country thet BE/BS walay Muqadas gaye(COW) hain. and as well as PEC concern they dont follow the instructions of SUPREME COURT to deal the B.TECH at par.

    • Waqar Raja

      Slam all bro.
      dear mn b.tech 4th sem ka student hun, ab tk mn ny jo b sna ha mncnfuz hun k myry sath kya hony wala hai to plz help me…..

  • Yasir Baloch

    aap blkul sahi keh rhy hain B-tech ki degree bhe PEC sy registered ho

    • asim zuberi

      Mr Baloch PEC is the main herdle in the recognition of B.TECH,

  • Babar Baloch

    B tech walon k sath Q saotan jaisa salook kia ja raha hai Jab hamre wazeer-ala ne keh dia hai k degree to degree hota hai to phr B tech ko b baaki BE walo ki tarha ahmiat di jaae

  • talkh haqeeqat

    study structure of B Tech and BE are totally different. BE is a professional degree and B Tech is a diploma so B-Tech can never be equal to BE.

    • asim

      “Little knowledge is dangerous to man kind” Oh bhai who says B.TECH is Diploma, I am quite sure you are BE/Bsc. julna choro bhai

    • sadiq

      If there is some deficiency in courses, it is job of HEC to review the course, PEC should not create hurdles. In rest of the world, B-Tech has more value than BE, but it is Pakistan, here only Book reader BE is more valuable than Practical and as well as theoretical B-Tech engrs.

  • http://propakistani.pk rehan khan

    b tech degree is equal to bsc bcoz there s no diference and also btech is tuff then bsc ok

  • adnan

    asslam o alaikum to all my dae technology holders zara 2 sal main fsc karnay wolon sy pochoo k salo fsc base pay koi sub engineer ki job kar sakta hy ye salay fsc waly 4 sal main bsc engr kartay hain our dae holder btech hons k sath 7 year engr kartay hain is leye btech is higher then be or bsc rattalization engr as compare to btech conceptual engineering or to or ye bsc diplima holder k pair pakar k kam seekhtay hain saly

  • asim zuberi

    I some body have PRESIDENTS email pl forwerd our problem to him, kun k supreem court ki koi naheen sunta & hamaray pass itnay RS naheen k sc tuk jaa sakain for the implimentation of his orders on PEC whose chair person also a JIALI Madam Rukhsana Zuberi. tow brothers try to send voice to MR PRESIDENT.

  • rehan

    btech is higher than be/bsc

    • asim zuberi

      Are you asking a question or Giving information?

  • hizbullah jokhio

    iam in DAE nw iwt i do

    • asim zuberi

      jokhio sb kya puchna chahtay ho? write it in urdu.

    • http://www.facebook.com Sajjad ali

      just do B.E. don’t waste time in b-tech

  • Rizwan Ahmad
  • Rizwan Ahmad

    Mene Btech pass kia howa hy kia me MIT me admission le sakta ho k nhe koi btay ga k nhe ?

  • http://www.facebook.com Sajjad ali

    hi and salam to all, i totally agree with this news given above. B-tech degree is not recognised in Pakistan. it is my golden advice for oyuth don’t do b-tech. however if you are diploma holder take admission in B.E program ( u may get admission in private universities easily). after B.E you will get ur bright future. B.E is un defined degree so again don’t waste ur time in B-TECH. Our goverment would be provide relief for b-tech till last day of world. hahahhahhahaha. i have done b-tech, i was un lucky. Some people are giving u rong hopes that one day P.T.C (pakistan techonology concil )will me estabilished). it is just paying lips. My eldest brother told me he had been hearing this news of P.T.C since 1990.well guyz don’t play with your future. bye and think about my suggestion bcz i am ur sincere. one day you people will agree with me.

  • http://www.facebook.com Sajjad ali

    one thing i would like to shear with you guys now N.E.D is giving a golder apportunity for b-tech degree holders but remember this offer is only for student of goverment colleges and university like G.C.T shershah at karachi. N.E.D offer admission in 3rd year of B.E. This is called conersion course of two years. after compiletition you will be engineer. I am sorry if i hurt any b-tech student . this is reality guyz don’t hide this facts to upcoming students. i am already victum of b-tech remember. now i want to safe others. khudahafiz bye [email protected] (FACEBOOK and twitter same id)

  • asim

    Truly says, i have done M.TECH in 2010 still no benefit !

  • Habib Ur rRehman

    Asslam O Alaekum to all of my Brothers!
    First of all, there is no comparison between BSC and B-Tech. It is just like the comparison between MS physics and Ms chemistry. As these courses are same in the status but different in fields, same way, BSc and B- Tech are quite different and fields of designing and operational respectively. A BSc holder called designed engineer and a B- Tech holder is called operational engineer or technologist.BSc starts after Fsc and B- Tech starts after DAE. So this is clear that both fields are different( In the reference of Pak system).
    Now, before we discuss the social status of B- Tech in Pakistan, We should know some facts about it.
    In earlier, when the DAE started, it was programme only for those who were not much good in general education but were strong in technical side. Its mean this was the way to safe the average intelligence of Pakistan but there was no further study plan for Diploma holders.
    Later in 1973, B- tech programme launched when the diploma holders demanded to enhance their educational status as well as their skills. At that time this was a four year program and had the status of B.Tech (Hons) degree at par with B.Sc Engineering/B.E degree, according to the letter No. 15-29/73-Tech.
    According to the letter no PEC/4-P/QEC, the PEC stated that B.Tech degree would be considered equivalent to B.Sc/E.
    But as written in above, PEC declined his statement.
    Now the situation is this, the engineers and technologists are in opposite of each other.

    • http://www.facebook.com/H.Furqan786 Furqan Prince

      thanks for giving such a nice information bhai g… aj mera uoog ki first merit list main btech k liye
      naam aageya hai… but apni zindgi k 4 saal waste karne se acha hai k privite Bsc Engg hi kar li jaey… ku k Pakistan ka future itni aasani se badalne wala nhi….

  • Kashif Khan
  • Kashif Khan
    • asim

      Mr Kashif B.TECH aik achhut ki bemari hay Pyaray Pakistan Main and Bs/BE Muqadas gaye (bafelow) hain. its very very much better to do any degree other than BTECH.

  • http://sa saas

    dae

  • http://sa saad

    i did DAE in civil now

  • Habi

    Dear Kashif,
    You have no option except to do B-Tech or BS. So you can choose any of one from these because there is no difference between these courses.

  • KHAN

    I AM VERY SORRY TO WRITE THAT 50000 B TECH DEGREE HOLDERS ARE STILL WAITING FOR HELP FROM OTHERS.PLEASE COME OUT ON ROAD AND PROTEST FOR YOUR RIGHTS.I PRAY FOR YOUR BRIGHT FUTURE.

  • waqar ahmed khan

    Dear all brother
    ager p.e.c wala nahi man rahy to p.t.c ko estiblish
    karne par zor do ka hamari degree kuch qabil ho jai
    aur karachi ma bhi protest karo ak sath har city ma
    karo.

    Thanks
    eng.waqar ahmed khan
    I.I.H.E.

  • Aitizaz Hassan

    AOA….
    inshallah one day it will be register…..it is clear that a B engineer have almost 7 years experience in their field,,,which is much enough for a bsc engineer,,,,,aitizaz swabi

  • Muhammad Zubair Ahmed

    Currently I am a student of B-Tech Pass in my opinion B-Tech Pass can’t be equivalent to BE/BSC due to the difference of courses & the time,
    But the B-Tech Hon’s should be equivalent to BE. Because the min requirement of education for Bachelor’s is 16 years in this case both degree programs having the same time frame & also recognized by PEC.

  • saqibkhan

    PLEASE LESSON ALL OF YOU PLEASE NOTE MY COMMENT oF REALLY FULL OF SORROW;

    I DID B.SC (ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING)
    4 YEAR , MUCH OF MONEY AND TIME I LOST (MUCH OF HOSTELS FEE ….AND MUCH OTHER FEE’S)
    NO JOB IN PAKISTAN AND FOREIGN ALSO for me , NOW I’M DOING MY OWN BUISNESS AND ALLAH IS GOING ME MUCH MONEY ITS OK BUT WHAT MY MANY WISHES WAS NOT COME’S TRUE OF A BETTER JOB I HAVE NO JOB BECUASE OF BS.C ,
    AND MY MANY MANY FRIEND THEY DID B.TECH AND HAS BEEN SUCCEEDED, MY OTHER FRIEND ARE NOW IN U.K , AND IN BIG ROYAL COMPANIES RELATED TO AL.BURJ ETC,
    THEY GOT MARRIED BIG HOUSES AND MUCH THINGS THEY GOT, AND I’M STILL HERE NOTHING WITHOUT A TEACHER OR LECTURUR,

    SOOO ALL OF YOU BROTHER AVOID BS.C DO B.TECH(advance engineering) AND GO AWAY TO FORIEGN(DUBAI SAUDI & OTHER’S) MUCH MUCH BETTER JOBS AND COMPANIES ARE WAITING FOR YOU,
    (nothing in pak)

  • saqibkhan

    AND BROTHERS FS,C KAY BAAD DEPLOMA AND THEN B.TECH KEJYE(IF U DONE U MAKE YOUR SELF AS A DIAMOND) ITS PRECIOUS ADVICE FOR ALL OF YOU,
    ESS TARAH AP BHAI AIK ANMOL HERA BAN JAO GY,

    PAKISTAN MEIN NA TO BS KE KOI VALUE NA BS.C KE NA B.TECH KE(OTHER THAN BS.C)WAST THING IS BS.C,
    PLEASE AVOID IT,
    BS OR B.TECH
    THESE ARE MUCH ADVANCE STUDIES THEN BS.C,

  • Rizwan
  • Rizwan

    B tech pass k bad
    msc me admission mil skta hy k nhe
    reply me
    idrizwan at yahoo.com

  • Sajid Ali Shah

    Can any body Please tell about the universities in Pakistan offering M Tech/Master Program(Engineering) after B-Tech Pass/Hons???

  • http://B.TECHDEGREESTATUSINPAK UMER MUGHAL

    BHAI SB KOI FAIDA NAI M.TECH KARNY KA IS SAY ACHA AP B.E KAR LO TO KUCH FAIDA BHE HO JAYE GA.OR SAMAJHDAR K LEAY ISHARA KAFI HOTA HAI.. KIA SAMJHAY………

  • zubee

    AOA
    Dear All

    Q: Why do we study?
    Ans: To earn a respectable income (not for PEC registration)

    I know many of B-Tech (Hons) degree holders who earn better than many of BSc engineers. I myself did B-Tech (Hons) in 2004 and right on the day of my last VIVA, I got a job in an MNC, after 1 year changed my job and working with another MNC for last 7 years. I have knowledge and wisdom to handle technical and other related matters; I am
    successful in my Job & Life … I feel extremely lucky.

    Advice: if u have done B-Tech, now accept the fact that the bitch (PEC) will not register you any way, now find out a way to survive and grow without amenities of BSc, do not go for Govt. jobs but really MNCs and Private Sector love to appoint B-Tech instead of BSc engineers.

    I never meet any jobless B-Tech degree holder, so leave PEC registration that really does not matter, people see your work not your degrees and affiliations.

    Focus on earning money with respect and believe me there are tons of opportunities in the market just for you

  • Ahmed Chaudhary

    I have done my MS Engineering from NUST .Last year i am very surprised when i met with B-TECH.HE HAS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE.HE WAS THE REALLY ENGINEER.

  • b.tech fail

    B tech has no status so Pls do bsc

  • prince

    bs.tech ka saudia arabia mein boht scope ha aap 10000 riyal 1 month ki pay le skte han aur bsc ka faida nhi hai

  • SALIK

    ASALAMUN .. ALAIKUM..
    CHAIMEN SAHAB SE EK GUZARISH KARATA HUN K HAMARE MULK K BAGERAT SIASATDANON KO THORI GAIRAT DILAI JAI TAKE K WO KUTTE KI TARHAN APAS MAIN LARNE K BAJAI TALEEM K MAYAR KO BEHTER BNAI BOHOT AFSOS HOTA HAI YE ZULAM DEKH KAR BTECH WALON K SATH K WO BE K BARABR NAHEN HOTE … SHARAM KARO ZALIL LOGON TM KION BTECH WAON KI BADUWAN KAHAN CHATE HO BTECH KI DEGREE KO BE K BARABBR KIA JAI..

  • Raza Siddique

    need to improve the calibre of b-tech institutions,
    most of the students cheat in DAE and B-tech exams.
    nothing wrong with the course out line

    As salam o alikum

  • Rizwan Saifal

    Engineers Designing Karte hain Jab K Technologist practical oriented Engineers hain, Aaj Tak pakistan ki history koi engineer nhi mila jo atleast a needle design kar saka ho, Ye loog Pakistan Engineering Clerk (PEC) number le kr sari Zindgi Clerki karte rehte hain, Pore mulk ka batha enho ne bitha dia hay, Koi kam karna ho contract de do bahir walon ko, kuch ata ho to khud kaam karin.

  • Aamir khan

    PEC ko chaye k wo b tech ko apne Edare k 7 Rigester kare

  • azhar abbasi

    b.tech ki degree attest krty hai h.e.c se