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Pakistan Blocks Thousands of Adult Websites

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Pakistani internet service providers have started the process of blocking websites with adult and explicit content, told us multiple sources from the industry.

Earlier this month PTA, telecom regulatory authority of Pakistan, had decided to block the access of those websites in Pakistan that contain adult content.

As we reported earlier, PTA has plans of blocking 150,000 such websites in coming weeks, however, initial list of 1,000 websites has been sent out to all ISPs, mobile operators and international gateways to get them blocked.

ProPakistani has got the said list of 1,000 websites, which we aren’t publishing it here for obvious reasons. But we can tell you that they all are adult websites and few of them are ranked in top 100 Alexa list for Pakistani most visited websites. Local adult websites are also included.

ISPs are given 8-10 days to get the orders implemented. Most of the ISPs, including PTCL, have already blocked these websites, while others are making the necessary preparations for the blockade.

PTA is also planning to devise a way for general users to report adult websites to authority. After through review authority will keep adding such reported websites/URLs to the black list.

Internet Service Providers on other hands aren’t comfortable with the overheard involved in the blocking of websites. They say that blocking high number of websites may result into slow performance by routers and increased latency due to high number of filters over the network.

PTA decided to ban explicit websites after immense pressure from bloggers, hackers and activists. They, along with parents, are certainly rejoicing authority’s decision.

However there are users who are opposing the ban, few of them think that this way PTA will get the axe to cut any website under the cover of explicit material. But sources at head-office of PTA tell us that they will make this process of blocking websites very transparent and visible to everyone, so that no one fears the unlawful use of power.

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  • http://www.nascentstuff.com Nauman Afzal

    That’s good news

    • qub

      haan bhot acha step hai likin pata nahi 1,2 banday is k q mukhalif hain shayad wo khud porn dekhtay hain.aik banday ka tu sab ko pata hai jo facebook aur porn ki shoru se himayat kartey hain aur jin ka naam “S” se start hota hai.mera tu net bhi theek chal raha hai likin ab wo sahab roona start kar dein gay k mera net slow ho gaya,ye ho gaya wo ho gaya.un ko asal main ALLAH ka hukum nazar nahi ata.kesay besharam loog hai khulam kullah itni ghaiya cheezon ki himayat kartey hain .is tarah ki buraiya tu janwaron main bhi nahi hoti.jabhi tu ALLAH ka azaab aa raha hai.phir kehtay hain ALLAH ka azaab q ata hai .besharam loog.

      • ShahRukh

        Aray Bhai mujhe kyun bech mein ghaseet rahay ho…

        Shayad App SHAHID SALEEM sab ki baat kar rahay hain… HAHAHAHAHAHAH….

    • p for pak

      Porn larkay kyon dekhtay hain??? kyon k unki jinsi khawahishaat jaaiz tareeqe se poori nahi hoti…yani SHAADI nahi hoti… aik 25 years old larkay ke salary sirf Rs. 6,000 hoti hai hamare pyare Pakistan mai… is mai usko koi bhe rishta nahi deta…

      to phir woh kia kerta hai… zahir hai porn is easily available….to woh porn dekhta hai… ab jab porn block ho jaye ge to kia ho ga… larkay Rs. 50 wali prostitute k paas jayen gay…

      ab jab porn open hai to larkay prostitute ke bajaye internet say kaam chalate hain… lekin phir to prostitute k ilawa koi chara nahi…

      phir woh larkion say dosti karain gay or shadi say pehlay he sub kuch karain gay… aisa abhi bhe hota hai lekin kum….bcause of porn….

      lekin jab porn block ho jaaye ga to Pakistan mai BIG BAGHAIRTI shroo ho ge….

      yeh Western Countries ke chaal hai, woh chahte hai k jis tarha western countries mai sub hota hai..Pak mai bhe ho…. lekin porn ke wajha say larkay “chota gunah” kertay thay…ab majboor ho k woh “bara gunah” karain gay…

      PORN TO BLOCK HO RAHA HAI…saath saath aisa qanoon bhe banaya jaaye k larkon ke shadi jaldi ho jaaye…

      • http://google.com Ivan Cheng

        your right….

        • ali

          Very right…. good thought

      • Ali

        باقی چھوڑ یہ بتا کہ پچاس روپے والی پروسٹی ٹیوٹ کہاں ملتی ہے؟

        • Inconvincible

          lol

        • http://www.onlinepeshawar.com peshawar

          yar yeh 50 wali prostitute wali bat waqai dilchasp hy. :p

          well, i will agree, chayee porn block ho ya na ho , jald shadi ka koi kanoon hona cahyee, maslan , jo larka 25 sy ziada ka ho aur wo kanwara ho, tu us ko jeel bhej dia jaye, aur zamant sirf nikah nama ho.

          LOL. :D

          • Rameez RAjpuT

            Hahahaha…WaisY Jo B Ho Yaar ShaDi Aaj KaL K HaaLat Ma 24 Year MA Laazmi Ho Jaani Chahiay.is k Barry Ma Govt ko b Action Laina Chahiay..!!.!!

        • Incredible India

          India mein 10 rs mein b avaiable hai

        • jumbo burger

          lol
          bohot ala

      • ali

        i thinking again on this…. and im little scared now… blocking website is not a solution at this stage, i dont have any strong argument to support it rightnow. But i feel like this is just not right decision

      • Hassan Raja

        Shadi se pehle sex krna zina hai. Use dekhna aankhon ka zina hai. Humare bhaiyon ko yehi nhi pta to wo kya kuchh samajhen gay. Humen ye jan lena chahiye k zina chahe kisi b tarah ka ho gunaah hai. ALLAH ne zina se manaah farmaya hai chahe wo jism se ho ya aankhon se.
        Jis tarah kaha jata hai na “parhe likhe jahel”, usi tarah hm na-samajh Muslman hain. Humne Qur’an parh kr samajha nahi bal-kay use choom kr shelf pe rakh diya. ALLAH ne to humari islah k liye boht raste paida kiye hain, hum khud sudhrna na chahen to dusron ko qasoor-war kaise tehra sakte hain. ALLAH humen Qur’an parhne aur hifz krne k saath saath use samamjhne aur uski baton pe aml krne ki toufeeq ata farmaye.aameen.!

        • Rameez RAjpuT

          Great….!!
          BaaQi is MuLk Pakistan Ma ShaDi ka Bht MasLa Hogya Hai…Job Hai Nai, Agar Hai To Slary Itni Ni k Guzara Ho Sakky Kisi Middle Man Ka…Ameer Insaan to Bht Kch Kar B Laita Paisy k Sar Par…Lakin Gareeb Ya JawaaNi par QaaBo na Paa Sakny WaLa Phir Jo KarnY par MajBoor Hotta, Wo aap Sab Bhi Jaanty E Hain…ShaDi ki Age Par Govt ko Islaam K MutaabiQ Action Laina Chahiay…Yaha Tak k Christian Hmaary IsLaam K MutabiQ ShaDi Kar Rahy HAi,,Meanz k..JaLdi Age Ma E..Under 22….

      • abcxyz

        Fantastic!

        • omer

          very nice i m very happy about that pron k sare site band ho jai to bohat acha hoga .. as waja se humary payare mulk Pakistan pr bora wakt hy,, asi tara hum ek ek gunnah se bechne ki kosesh karinge,

      • http://pakistani.pk Naeem

        i agree with u P for Pakistani ..u r 100% right..

      • ahmar

        you are right.

      • http://hassantariq.net Hassan Tariq

        Truly said. Chota gunnah is better than barha gunnah. Though gunnah is gunnah. I myself thinks the same way as you described. I mean 6000 salary walay ki b tu majbori ha. Sub society nay pangay lay lay kar barbaad kar dia ha sub ko. Dowry falana Timkana :@

    • p for pak

      Porn larkay kyon dekhtay hain??? kyon k unki jinsi khawahishaat jaaiz tareeqe se poori nahi hoti…yani SHAADI nahi hoti… aik 25 years old larkay ke salary sirf Rs. 6,000 hoti hai hamare pyare Pakistan mai… is mai usko koi bhe rishta nahi deta…

      to phir woh kia kerta hai… zahir hai porn is easily available….to woh porn dekhta hai… ab jab porn block ho jaye ge to kia ho ga… larkay Rs. 50 wali prostitute k paas jayen gay…

      ab jab porn open hai to larkay prostitute ke bajaye internet say kaam chalate hain… lekin phir to prostitute k ilawa koi chara nahi…

      phir woh larkion say dosti karain gay or shadi say pehlay he sub kuch karain gay… aisa abhi bhe hota hai lekin kum….bcause of porn….

      lekin jab porn block ho jaaye ga to Pakistan mai BIG BAGHAIRTI shroo ho ge….

      yeh Western Countries ke chaal hai, woh chahte hai k jis tarha western countries mai sub hota hai..Pak mai bhe ho…. lekin porn ke wajha say larkay “chota gunah” kertay thay…ab majboor ho k woh “bara gunah” karain gay…

      PORN TO BLOCK HO RAHA HAI…saath saath aisa qanoon bhe banaya jaaye k larkon ke shadi jaldi ho jaaye…

      • kashif virk

        i don not agree with you mr P for Pak! pehli to baat ha…. theek ha k 25 ki age main shadi nahi hoti ha. Log *bara gunah* karnay sa porn daikh kar bach jaata hain aur *chuta gunah* kar latain hain aur guzara chal jata ha.AISA BILKUL NAHI HA!!! Aap mujha batain k *bara gunah* aur *chuta gunah* karna kis na sekhaya???? ham kahain ga k PORN na…!!mera bhai jab aap porn nahi dekho ga to NAZAR main HAYA pada ho gi aur har kisi ko kisi ki behan apni behan dekha gi…q k PORN ka matlab hi FAHASHI aur URYANIYAT ha.jab aap fahashi nahi dekho ga to fahash kaam kaisa karo ga??? ISLAM bhi yahi kahta k NAZAR ki HIFAZAT karo…!! hope you are understood!

        • masaad

          right!

      • mubeen shahid

        well its right k shadi hojani chahiye like in malaysia when boy and girl come to age of 25. govt support thier marriage and they are only allowed to maary after offering hajj… how marvelous it is. wish such law is enforced in pakistan. or baki sab ki baat thek hai gunah sasta hai or nikah mushkil. well this system take lot of time to change. specialy when indain media wil be baned or logo ka dikhwa khtam hoga then its possible

      • A.A.Khilji

        sirf larko ki hi nhi larkyo ki bhi honi chaye … kya larkay larko se shaadi karenge … tht sounds gay … :P

  • kashif

    yah sab zoombie_ksa ki meharbani hay q k pta ki ab dar giya hay k kahain zoobie dobara pta ki website hack na kar lay zoombie agar pta ki website hack nahin karta to shayad pta kabhi action nahin layta q k government ki tarhan sab nakara ban chukay hain hahhahahahhahahah looool.

    [Comment Edited]

    • khalid

      aap ko dukh hay kashif bhai ?

  • Fawad

    Yes!!! Speed issues have already started to occur.. before the ban my service experience was flawless.. or atleast nearby it… now in peak ours downloads arent crossing 150Kbps limit… where 400-450Kbps was the routine.
    dont know what more surprises are comin.

    • Mashahood

      This is something not related to this ban – a thousand websites aren’t an issue for ISPs, but in coming days the list may grow to tens of thousand, its then the performance issue “may” occur – if proper preparation is not done.

      • murtaza

        well this is a BIG issue PTA already banned thousands of websites most of them belongs to BLA (Balochistan Liberation Army) type content or any content against the republic and some anti Islamic content and they send notifications to ISPs, on regular basis believe me the URLS are in thousands and with the addition of P**n URL’s the service will get slow as they add more URL’S to the ban list.

        • Insi

          mera net tu bilkul theek chal raha hai balkay seriously 2-3 dino se tu ar zyda fast chal raha hai.aur main Pta ka tu bhot hi shgukar guzaar hoon akhir koi kaam tu acha kiya ,dair se aiy dursut aiy.

          • murtaza

            don’t know what service you are using but the fact is that I am expecting this meaning less answer from the majority.
            If your are using slow speed internet and once in a blue moon your service is on its peak you say its getting better I am talking about true Broadband or CIR (Committed Information Rate) bandwidth then you will have a real idea how your service is working.

            • usman

              Its a very excellent decision by PTA..its saves our youth from all ways

  • http://facebook.com/zafar24 www.Facebook.com/Zafar24

    PTA should think for 3G services. Like India there are many 3G services and some other countries 4G are now in use. Blocking and Banning, PTA and PEMRA, are creating problems for youth and younger generation! Instead of bringing new technologies they are just banning. And Silly PEMRA banning INDIAN CHANNELS, we should cut our cable tv and should move to DISHTV INDIA 250 PLUS INDIAN CHANNELS. Cable Tv is only ‘kabhro ka drama’. Cable Tv is like a snake we should cut a snake to teach PEMRA a lesson. I am very happy watching 250 plus indian channels. We should move TO DTH services.

    • khan

      Or you can move to India yourself… ;-)

      • omer

        +1

        • AsadGhumman

          ^^^ that is the best option for youth who have thoughts like “. Blocking and Banning, PTA and PEMRA, are creating problems for youth and younger generation!”

          Kia baat hai yaar, banning P**n is creating problems for youth :P. Will you please elaborate what type of problems you are facing???

          • Ahmed

            Problems like ..how to find out if they fall in category of an “adult”…or to see how “man” or “woman” are they.

            • http://aceph.pk Asif

              Most silly thoughts! Baat Internet pe p*** ki ho rai h, n jawab dish pe indian channels ka ara hy…

          • Anwer Baloch, Quetta, Balochistan

            Before I comment, I want to clear one point “I DONOT SUPPORT PORN WEBSITES”.

            Lets NOT shirk away from “Un-Deniable FACTS” of our Society. Lets accept the “TRUTH”:

            1. When VCR was banned. So what? VCRs were easily available in the smuggled Market including the porn (commonly known as BP VCR cassettes) If “YOU WANTED” All you needed to do was just go, buy, bring and watch.

            2. Bombs, Terrorists and their Organizations are Banned. So What? Do you feel safe when you go out of home?

            3. Liquour, Heroin, all such intoxicants are banned. So What? How much you want? You can easily buy “ANY INTOXICANT” if “YOU WANT” within your own city anywhere in Pakistan.

            4. Prostitution is banned. So what? If “YOU WANT” you can get a Prostitute within your own city anywhere in Pakistan.

            5. Illegal Arms & Ammunition is banned. So What? If “YOU WANT” you can get any Dangerous Illegal Weapon within your own city anywhere in Pakistan.

            6. Now porn websites are banned. So What? If “YOU WANT” you will get some other alternate very soon.

            Why this all happens in our Society? Simple Answer is: “YOU WANT IT, YOU FIND A WAY AND GET IT”.

            May be I am wrong, but I donot think “BANNING” wrong things is the solution of our Society’s problems. We need to “EDUCATE” our Society by having role models at the top level. But very much sadly role models are made from “PEOPLE OF CHARACTER” and who are at the “TOP LEVEL of OUR SOCIETY”? You all know very well.

            So, I assure you that if you want to treat CANCER with Paracetamole, be sure about the “already known RESULTS”.

            Our Society is badly sick. Lets understand and accept the “TRUTH” and only then things can move towards a Right Direction. I am very sorry in advance if my these comments hurt “anyone”.

            • AsadGhumman

              ^^^^
              U r right but lets try apni si koshish to ki ja sakti hai with good intentions. Baqi koshish mei barkat dalna Allah ka kaam hai, Insaan ki koshish se to 1 machar b control nhi kia ja sakta

            • Malik

              @ Anwar Baloch

              Brother, you cannot let these illicit material to be openly shown in an Islamic state. Blocking (indecent material, Drugs, Prostitution, illegal Arms) is very much a necessity.
              What are saying above is right. But these things go hand on hand. You have to legally block them and support programs to educate nation in these issues as well.

              Govt. decision is commendable and these contents should be blocked. Just to add, it is our personal obligation as per Islam, to study the way of living life. Which every Muslim should strive for.

              Have a nice day!

              • Shahid Saleem

                After last elections people posted videos on Youtube and metacafe about election fraud they witnessed. Within days URLs were ordered to be blocked.

                Was that necessity, too?

                Today if some url is blocked, you cannot find out why. Will someone tell me why rollingstone.com is blocked but the magazine is available in many bookstores in Pakistan?

            • ayaz hussain

              bht zabardast research ki hai apne!!!

        • ShahRukh

          +100 :)

      • http://www.buzzpk.com Handsome

        +1 and 1 like too and 1 tweet :p lolz

        • http://facebook.com/soleali Ali

          +1 too

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    Interested peoples contact at engrz.com

    • ayaz hussain

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  • Shahid Saleem

    Someone said he could not reach btjunkie, meaning his ISP has blocked some torrent sites too.

    • Ahmed

      How can you give judgements on 1 person’s experience? It is opening here..no blockage.

      • Shahid Saleem

        I didn’t give judgement, I just pointed out something I read. No implications were made other than obvious ones.

        • Esc

          haan haan shahid sahab ab tu bhot buraiya nazar ai gi aap ko is ban lagney main,aap tu start se hi porn aur facebook k himaati ho shahid sahab.

          • ShahRukh

            Yar… Shahid Bhai ko ziada tang nai karo woh Proxies dhondhnay mein Busy hain :D

    • http://mkiqbal.com Malik Kamran Iqbal

      They HAVE blocked btjunkie.org!!
      Now why the hell would they do that ?I appreciate blocking of porn sites but why torrent sites.I used to download all the movies and season episodes from there because it is very good torrent website.But now I have to use other websites.

      Can someone tell me the logic behind this incredible decision ?

  • ejaz latif

    thanks God and thanks pta and pemra. this is regulation.us azadi ka koi fida ni jis mein nazm o zabt na ho.now i think pakistani youth will be safe.

  • Owais

    people are such idiots for thinking blocking the websites will stop porn….what we need is better education and then allow people to make informed choices.

    Trust me you can block all the websites you want but it simply does not work…..there are enough ways to bypass these bans….

    • khan

      Owais despite all international efforts behind eradicating drug trade, drugs are still available on the streets. Does that mean we should allow drugs? Ban on something is not a complete solution itself but it helps a lot.. at least for majority.

      • faisal

        i agre to khan
        owais you right on your point of view but dear 70 to 90% people will save now and it is very good action do you know from last 7 years pakistan is top of the list in watching porn movies

      • AsadGhumman

        Very well said Khan…. Such comments are really annoying when jab 2-4 classes parh kr log moderate thinker ban jaate hain…

      • pakiiiii

        Very true

    • ayaz hussain

      blocking these websites can be the first step….a country can not economically progress until corruption is eliminated similarly this is pre-requisite !!!!

  • farhan

    Allah Ka shukar hay…hosh agaya hamary PTA ko…thanks PTA and those Pakistani who protest against adult websites

  • Pakistani

    Sawal yeh heh kihe rainbow centre par taala kaun lagain ga

  • Sweet Dee

    This is just stupid. Banning porn websites is not a solution to Pakistani Tharkiness.

    All of you who are glad are morons.

    • khan

      I totally agree that its not the solution but its the way forward. Explicit material for that matter surely increase the sexual frustration.

    • muneeb

      i agree wid you… for that you need some Public Decency Laws.. :D

      • waqas

        besharmo porn pe ban lagna chaiye q k ye ALLAH ka hukum hai.

    • faraz

      Sweet dee aap yakenan musalmaan nahi ho agar aap musalman hotey tu aap ko pata hota k porn dekhney ka kitna bara azaab hai kiamat k din.ALLAH k hukum k agay tu hamin bilkul nahi bolna chaiye.agar aap ko pta ka ye step acha nahi laga tu sab k saamney tu nahi bolo warna kiamat k din ALLAH ko kia jawab do gay.

  • FarhanTahiru

    @Owais:
    i 100% dis-agree.

    just tell me how many people, out of common public know that there are ways to bypass the restrictions?
    your assumption is that every internet user is a IT pro..which is wrong.
    ofcourse there are many people who know that restrictions should be bypassed, but there are more than 90% who dont know or do not know that HOW to use that bypassing system.
    and another point is that when people have common access to such sites, one click of a button, then they use it easily,,,,when they will have to go through a PROCESS of steps,, then they will hesitate to open such sites..
    and such action of PTA will make their viewing tough for sure..and many will not go for it just bcoz it takes time and effort to open these sites,,as before it was available on a click.
    .
    atleast appreciate their move that something is better than nothing.
    and it is not something here, it will block more than 90% of viewers from viewing such sites.

    • ShahRukh

      100 % Agreed..

      Owais, My Friend If we can even change 1 % I think its worth it…

  • FarhanTahir

    Owais:

    if we want to stop people from consumption of alcohol, then the best way is to BAN it.
    and if it is easily available, then people already know that it is wrong, then why do they consume it?
    and when we ban it why everybody stops its consumption?

    • Shahid Saleem

      Um…what makes you think the consumption has stopped? 35 years after Bhutto closed down bars, you can still find liquor.

      Next time you are in Lahore, drive to Nisbet road. You will find several shops selling used liquor bottles. Ask yourself, where do they get their supply? And when they sell the bottles, what is sold in the bottles?

      • khan

        @ Shahid

        So that means we should remove ban from prostitution and alcohol as well?

        • Shahid Saleem

          Did I say that? No.

          You said

          — if we want to stop people from consumption of alcohol, then the best way is to BAN it.

          Did the ban work? No. Then obviously the best way is not to ban it. It is like putting a bandage on a damn that has a crack.

          • Ali

            “if we want to stop people from consumption of alcohol, then the best way is to BAN it.
            Did the ban work? No.”

            haan ban lagney se bhot fark hai, agar alcohol pe ye ban bhi hat jai tu abhi thori jaghon pe mil rahi hai ,ban hatney k baad bhot zyda jagho pe milay gi.aur ye baat sab ko pata hai k Shahid tum ney hamesha facebook porn aur sood (bank interest)ki hamesha haq main baat kari hai.

          • khan

            @ Shahid Saleem

            There is a contradiction in your statements…

            In response to “So that means we should remove ban from prostitution and alcohol as well?”

            You said:

            “Did I say that? No.”

            But then you mentioned:

            “Did the ban work? No. Then obviously the best way is not to ban it.”

            “Yes” means that you have a different point of view regarding banning stuff and I respect your opinion.

            “No” means that you agree that ban on prostitution and alcohol helps but you disagree that ban on porn will ever help.

            So once again, are you in favor of removing ban on alcohol and prostitution in pakistan or not? A simple yes or no will help.

            • Shahid Saleem

              It would help if you learned to read. My complaint is with the word “best” not with the method (banning).

              It is not the best way. Millions of Muslims live in countries where alcohol is not banned and yet they do not drink. If things were as bad as you think they are, then they would be drinking because it is available.

              • khan

                @ Shahid Saleem…

                You again didnt answer the question… :-)

                Are you in favor of removing ban on alcohol and prostitution in pakistan or not?

                anyways… peace…!

                • Shahid Saleem

                  Again, again, please FOCUS on READING. There is a VAST difference between saying “ban does not work” and saying “ban should be removed.” Why did you read what I wrote and think I said something else? It magically changed from words on screen to words in your braine.

                  I don’t think banning will help. However, I did NOT argue against a ban. I have only argued against government peeking at my traffic and everyone else’s traffic.

                  Someone said banning is the best way. I said it is not the best way, and showed examples where Muslims live without bans & without social problems.

                  • khan

                    Quote @ Shahid Saleem

                    (Again, again, please FOCUS on READING. There is a VAST difference between saying “ban does not work” and saying “ban should be removed.” )

                    Just taking your words from above sentence:

                    Your opinion –> “ban does not work”
                    implies that –> “ban should be removed.”

                    Whats the purpose of putting a ban on something if it doesnt work at all… If it even improves situation by a certain percentage then yes it helps and ban should be placed. But otherwise its simply useless..

                    Dont make it personal… no offense intended…. :-)

                    • Shahid Saleem

                      – Your opinion –> “ban does not work”
                      — implies that –> “ban should be removed.”

                      I wrote the words, but I didn’t write the implication. Again, in your head.

                      — Whats the purpose of putting a ban on something if it doesnt work at all…

                      Well, you tell me. I did not advocate any ban. (That is not the same as saying ban should be removed.)

                      — If it even improves situation by a certain percentage then yes it helps and ban should be placed.

                      Speed breakers reduce traffic deaths, so should they on all roads including motorway? Following your reasoning YES

                      — Dont make it personal… no offense intended…. :-)

                      Why don’t you follow your own advice? Attacking what you THINK i said instead of what I actually said when you should be instead of discussing the effectiveness of such bans.

                    • Maani

                      @Khan
                      Simple answer…. Ban is just a “Method” to minimize a problem. If it doesn’t work…. change the “Method”.
                      For example If we ban online porn, the vast majority of our online surfer (yes vast majority, and if you don’t agree then search google for “porn addiction in Pakistan”)… So vast majority will try to satisfy their addiction by searching the alternatives. i.e. Local DVDs sops/markets, Net Cafes, mobile Content Shops etc… and all these alternatives will benefit the mafia related to these business….. So the addiction will remain the same. In fact their will be more frustration, and more pressure on their limited pocket money. So ban = 100% wealth increase for alternative mafia + speed/ping problem and the misuse of the power by our regularity.

                      So how to counter the problem if ban is not the correct method??? this a Million dollar question…

                      let’s find out the answer….
                      Method #1 “Ban” = we learned above that straight ban is not the correct method and can’t minimize the problem. Yes It will protect few minors, say 15 to 20%, but rest 80% will find alternatives.
                      Ban is somewhat affective only when there is just one known avenue, OR the punishment is maximum, and there is no way to escape, like in China, KSA or UAE etc. but here the story is opposite, and we’re just by name Muslims, but our deeds are worst, we’re the most corrupt Illiterate and incompetent people in the world. then how can we compare our selves to countries like above?

                      I’ll continue to discus the best solution in next post, if people are really interested in it, but if they’re just supporting straight ban without looking into its backfire, then I’m sorry I’m just wasting my time talking to stones.

                      One last thing “and again”, don’t reply with stupid responses. I do support extremism. So don’t bring religion in front, (I do not support porn) my concerns are just the method, and I don’t support ban when there is an alternative available…. and ban is the single alternatives then I’ll be the first to support a ban.

                      The post is going big so I’ll conclude it here.

                    • khan

                      @ Shahid Saleem

                      It seems i have somehow managed to offend you repeatedly. Rest assured, it was not my intention…

                      Peace.. :)

  • Pro_Desi

    ^^ this will not just stop at the porn sites now… wait till gov. starts banning political sites as well

  • Umar Khan

    Well its a good step . Much appreciateable. But still there is a large number of People who can still access it. PTA also have to block the Proxy Links ,, So there Will be no Way for Youth or some one else..

  • Xahid

    Finally, some good news, they should implement it without any further delay, they need to ban Torrents website, which are mostly dealing with illegal materiel and porn stuff, as well ask, Gnutella Network(AKA Kazza), eDonkey network, and all the file sharing network, they don’t filter their stuff either !

    • Shahid Saleem

      What about banning CNN and BBC websites? Why, sometimes they have scandalous FASHION pictures!!!

      • Anwar

        mujey lag raha hai ye Ban sab se zyda sirf Sahid saleem ko hi bura laga.is liye chootay chootay bahaney dhond kar la raha hain.

  • Muneer Ahmad

    There is no proof yet? :(

  • WooHoo

    And this will play right into the hands of CD and DVD businesses, who will now have a roaring trade of adult movies.

    Wonder if the top search in Pakistan has now turned to finding ways to by-pass these restrictions?????

  • punani

    nooooooooooooooooo………. THE HORROR :O

  • Wasay Ahmed

    I am ok with blocking of porn, But what if it drastically effects ping and latency time.

  • http://itship.tk assi

    thats great decision. we should all say thanks to zombye.

  • Nitasha

    Which adult websites has blocked by Pakistani Government? These are still accessible :(

    • no one

      mtlb tum ne access krke dkhi hai

  • zain

    ISP’s are not comfortable…
    what the hell??
    they were comfortable with porn but now they not comfortable.this is called moral values at worst.

    dont ISP have families. daughters and mothers

  • zain

    can we get the list of those websites??

  • zain

    better late than never.
    PTA took a lot of time to do this. they could have done this before.

    HOPE THEY ANSWER FOR NOT DOING THIS WHEN THEY WILL FACE ALLAH

  • momi

    next section on propakistan: “how to bypass restriction on banned websites for non-techies”
    how ironic that would be. :P

    • admin

      Won’t happen

    • Muneer Ahmad

      You seem like u have po*n site(s)…

  • Mars

    Great initiative at last…

  • Maani

    @Admin
    I don’t know why you keep posting articles about porn? what porn has to do with tech in our country?? is this truing into an adult blog??? or are you just caching the current issue (as you know porn is the hottest subject for our nation)

    I don’t think highlighting such subject will do positive things. If PTA decided to ban it, let them ban it. don’t make it an issue. let the it fade away.

    Don’t take it negative, but find another subject to promote your blog :-(

    • Shahid Saleem

      – If PTA decided to ban it, let them ban it. don’t make it an issue. let the it fade away.

      Maybe you should read this old post: http://propakistani.pk/2009/01/19/pta-starts-blocking-proxy-sites-too/

      Read the names of the local sites blocked, and why.

      • Maani

        yes indeed that’s the real concern, and as a activist of Freedom of Expression I also pointed it numerous time in my posts,
        Since we don’t have a sincere regularity, then how can we trust them,

        However I’m not in favor of easy availability of porn to our youth too. but there are other and yet simple ways to counter it.

        @all
        Now don’t told me that porn is haram in Islam. and we must completely ban it…. indeed it’s haram/major sin in our religion,
        But we can’t completely eliminate it from normal Internet.
        If we put the vpn/proxy like techie stuff a side, then still our youth can easily access it, by visiting torrent or file sharing sites. So what? are we going sites like these too??

        and I hate people who bring religion in every mater and force their religious thoughts on others. and this is called extremism.

        If you can’t stop your self or your youth from online sin, then you don’t need to use internet at all, it’s not for you, nor it suits you. (and tell me how can then you stop him from going to local CDs/Net Cafe etc.?)
        OR if you want to go online safely then install a family filter or use a very simple and most accurate solution “Open DNS” (where you can easily filter website in categories. anyone can use it, as it’s free and there is no limit on usage. and I hope PTA OR ISPs should also provide similar system to their subscribers. Instead forcing them to look for alternatives.

  • Aitchisonianblood

    Of Course, those who want it, will find a way.

    but by blocking it up I believe it’ll prevent millions of kids who accidentally jump onto these websites from doing so.

    Actually I found porn accidentally :P , so O believe it’ll help a lot!

    :D

    • khan

      +1

      It happens when you do a typo while inputing any famous URL…

  • waqas

    Great news

  • iphone khan

    I think this is in reaction to be the first in porn searches on google (pakistan). Congrats there will be no more searches for ban but fir how to bypass it.

  • jkfslks

    this will only increase the number of rape victims in Pak as ppl will now have nothing else to do ….

    • waqas

      i think ppl and youngers go for rape when their thoghts are corrupted with these porn sitee

  • saGi

    as a free thinker .. deny we all might but it isn’t going to eradicate the obvious .. the youth has needs … sexual needs .. there’z already, plainly visible, plenty of evidence on the sexual desperation that prevails in our youth .. banning these websites is only going to create more problems than solve.

    i think its upto the parents (or elder bros and sisters) to be friendly and open minded with their sons and daughters to hone their adolescence .. but alas that comes with education which out country seriously lacks :S

    my second thought immediately went to the domestic corruption caused by indian and followers-of-indian drama channels. We all saw the ascent of star plus and its effects on our families …. but there are more .. like colors etc .. i think these channels present a more sinister issue given they corrode the very core of the family environment i.e. mothers …

    yet again, PTA reveals the rush of its decision making against better thought out solutions

  • http://facebook.com/zafar24 www.Facebook.com/Zafar24

    @AsadGhumman first of all, PTA banning porn sites creating problems for youth because who will give Pakistani youth SEX EDUCATION, teachers, wrong pakistani teachers are shy they don’t want to give sex education. So this is a problem. Second PEMRA banning Indian Channels for its own ego. Because our Silly channels like ARY, HUM, GEO, etc are not giving powerful entertainment compared to Star Plus, SONY, COLORS, IMAGINE. but on one can stop me watching there channels. Solution is DISHTV INDIA.

  • waqas

    very gud move

  • http://www.paktelecom.net Bilal Sarwai

    Subhan Allah, Allah Pakistan ko essey hi steps uthane ki mazeed taqaat dye or Mulsmanoo ko tamam kufar per bharri kar dye, (Ameen)

  • Saad Durrani

    Happens on the next day when Imran succeeded to convert his Facebook fans into a political threat. Wait till you see Facebook and every other blogging site gets banned.

  • http://watchonlinemoveis.com/ khalil

    its pretty good decision, if implement fully.

  • required

    not fair, the only entertainment is blocked. disappointment for adults.

  • http://facebook.com/zuhaib.ch Dr Zuhaib

    Baning the porn is gud move… but we should also have to change the thinking of ppL. Have to create the intrest of youngsters in other healthy activitues. More game activities… just baning alone cant do any thing.

    • Shahid Saleem

      > More game activities…

      Like cricket match fixing? :):):)

      • Numb

        you have Negative thinking shaihd saleem.Dr zuhaib nay achi baat kia hai “game activites” ki aur tum match fixing le ai beech main.

    • Maani

      @Dr Zuhaib
      Agree on positive activities, Also we need proper education, we should discus the gray areas with our youth. telling and educating them about their negative aspects. instead harassing them or embarrassing them, .i.e people think discussing porn is a taboo subject, and since it’s a sin on our religion then we’ve no rights to discus it… Tell me How could we find out a solution without discussing the problem?

      “ٰIslam sikhata he K burai se bacho.” ab jab burai itni aam ho K har jaga mojod ho to phir kaise bacha jaye?
      Zahir he K eeman mazboot hona chahiye…
      Medina mein jab musalman aur yahudi sath sath abad the, tu kia Nabi(p.b.u.h) ne kufaar ki activities par ban lagai thi? kia sahaba karam bhi gunahoon se is liye bache howe the kewnke kowi ban lagi howi thi?
      Ajj 21ween sadi mein tu gunahoon K zaraye aur bhi ziyada phel choke hain, hum kis kis cheez ko ban karain ge. jab eeman kamzor hoga to chahe jitne ban bhi lage, masla hal nahi hoga.

      Masla hal hoga, taalim se, poper guidance se aur friendly discussions se.
      apni young generation ko acha aur bura rasta donoon freindly andaz mein batane chahiye, phir jab woh baligh hojayein tu phir onko “Will power and self discipline” par chorh dena chahiye. aap ka kaam hai onko guide karna. nake onke sar par mosalath rehna. aur onko force karna. yaad rakein… insaan ki fitart he K ose force kia jaye tu natayaj olte nikalte hein. aur agar ose freindly guide kia jaye tu wahi insaan baat tawaja se sunta he.

  • Shaheen

    Very very very good PTA.
    Congratulation to all Pakistanis……

  • J.J

    i don’t why but since then propakistani published this news of banning websites i round about open such websites daily just for test and spent…… hours and top 10 on Alexa are still opening :D

  • wth

    wtf why stupid pta blocked pastebin.com is it pron site? I’m using wateen dont know about other isps.

    • Shahid Saleem

      Confirmed on PTCL DSL. Redirects to youtube.com.

    • Maani

      this is unfortunately happened. and we can’t blame PTA, instead we should blame our self for the misuse of this new power by our regularity:-( and this is just beginning.

      • Shahid Saleem

        Why can’t we blame the PTA? We didn’t do the banning. They did. Weren’t they supposed to CHECK the site before banning? Why did they ban we it? We don’t know. How do we get it unbanned? We don’t know. How many other sites like it are banned? We don’t know.

        The ones with copies of the list aren’t telling us or PTA to unblock the wrongly blocked sites. So we are left in the dark about what is being blcoked “for our safety”

        • Maani

          @Shahid
          “Why can’t we blame the PTA? We didn’t do the banning”

          The majority is in the favor of banning :-(. even one-liners here, are showing their pleasure, like the ban is a big fortune for them…

          I don’t know, how many of them are truly concerned about the negative aspects of porn, and how many are the alternate avenues mafia evils, who’re expressing their joys, as their business will rise on the top again :-(

          They are just mixed-up behind barrier of our religion, so to counter them, we need an equal support (Not the porn lovers:-(, but people who believe that, ban is not the proper way to counter a problem. specially if there are more simple and effective alternatives available)

          • Shahid Saleem

            – The majority is in the favor of banning

            Yes but the actual “switch” for banning is in PTA’s hands, not ours. The “switch” is the list of sites and URLs they give ISPs to ban. It is PTA’s responsiblity to check the list first. They are given mandate to ban porn, but it should not matter if 1 million people want a URL banned: it should not be banned unless it is actually porn or something like that.

  • Raza

    Its a really bad news cause the outcome would be an increase in the rape rates. Most of all people will take their frustration out on the innocent college girls.

    • faisal

      is se rap kam hongay zyda nahi .Agar aik Gunah se bacho gay tu doosra Gunah bhi chootay ga.Aur sharam nahi ati pron ki himayat kar rahay ho kiamat k din ALLAH ko kia jawab do gay.

    • khan

      Chances of rape increases with availabiliy of explicit material… and its not the other way around…

      • http://google.com Ivan Cheng

        what u think about america waha tu sb open hai dear….and waha rape increases ku rooz barooz azafa hooo raha hai…!

  • Multan

    Hayee, Ab Nau-Jawan abhi aag khatam karain gey? CDS ka karoobar barh jaye ga ya case reporting barh jaye gi…

    Allah hi khair karRy.

  • http://www.aazee.com Aamir

    PTA just sucks they banned pastebin.com also and i am telling you guys many non porn sites also going to block by PTA

  • http://www.awamipolitics.com/ Azhar

    good news.. all porn websites should be blocked

  • Affan

    i think they also banned file hosting websites..
    i’m unable to open 4shared website.. that is a very usefull website, how to complain about wrong blocked site

  • Nawaz

    I congrates to pta and the information ministry in this regard who have taken the bold step to blok the adul content….it will be very good if they blok all the adult content on the internet…

  • http://www.uol.edu.pk Ashhar

    This is good. Islam also prohibits (declared haram) publication and propagation of such material.

    • http://www.uol.edu.pk Ashhar

      We should also educate our people to avoid such stuff.

  • Saleem Khan

    It is the most easiest way to stop people from accessing any content online…

    Do you think such steps can ensure that people will not be able to access such contents? Do you think people frustration will be overcome by such steps?

    In my opinion, it will lead to a new hype of frustration and you will soon find business of porn CDs and other ways to watch such contents…

    Society must teach its young generation a difference between good and bad…then let them decide what is best for them. I’m sure our generation is quite wise to take right step then….

  • Bilal Khan

    ok my isp at home(worldcall, Lahore) has blocked http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_Jinnah…and the image says its because of the PTA ban…well sir im impressed:)

    • Shahid Saleem

      Old block, I noticed it months ago. Every wikipedia page like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad… is banned.

      They want to keep us “safe” by not letting visit our Prophet’s page because there is probably a picture there or edit wars or something. Anyway, it is a problem on Worldcall end: they need to fix their filter rule. It’s a one line fix.

  • misa

    what about porn videos on facebook and others social websites.

  • Umair

    BUT WHY http://WWW.VIMEO.COM IS BLOCKED ITS NOT A PORN SITE :@

    • Saleem Khan

      Aatay ka sath ghunn bhee pista hai….

      Abb daiko aagay aagay hota hai kia…

      Tomorrow, telcome and ISPs may block all VOIP services including SKYPE….

      When you opens ways then in a country like Pakistan…Govt and companies exploits them for personal benefits. Blockage of porn sites may not help companies but blocking VOIP and Video sites will help them a lot.

      ALLAH KABHI GANJAY KO NAKHUN NA DAY…it happens exactly in Pakistan.

    • Shahid Saleem

      ??!? vimeo is just good quality videos (especially high definition). I have never seen porn there. Which ISP do you use?

  • Hina

    Lolz Still Open Working All Porn Sites .,
    I have Ptcl Broad Band. . . .
    Pta kab Block karaga.
    Sust loog ha

  • Kayani

    The biggest porn websites are
    kickasstorrent,Pirate bay etc. are they in the block list too !!!!

  • umair

    Shahid saleem
    I am on PTCL I maintain my portfolio at vimeo and now it has been blocked at ptcl
    Tried at home on ptcl connection
    Tried on ptcl connection at office
    Asked three office colleagues who has ptcl connection they also reported its not working

    • Shahid Saleem

      Strange, why is it blocked on ptcl but not worldcall?

    • Shahid Saleem

      Interesting, I am home now (using PTCL DSL) and vimeo is working for me.

      Also very strange, pastebin which was blocked is also working now. Maybe they removed both sites?

  • Umair

    mujhe to yeh Batao k yeh http://www.VIMEO.com q Block ha PTCL pe
    Not working at home connection office Connection and 3 friends who also own ptcl dsl

    • Shahid Saleem

      The article says PTA will make the process “transparent” and that no one should fear the unlawful use of power. Well, guess what…we dont know why pastebin and vimeo are banned, and we don’t know how to get them unblocked.

  • Hira Zeeshan

    bohat acha hoa porn xxx websites pay ban.

  • Raza

    my internet is very slow because of PTA Internet censorship is not a solution we should educate our people about porn that this is not a good thing to watch

  • Raza

    my internet is slow today.internet censorship is not an solution people can easily watch porn by buying cd’s from local stores. we should educate our people

  • Ting

    how many websites will they block????
    for every 1 website they block there are 100 new ones made everyday! so goodluck with blocking

    Read some where above that everyone does not know how to access blocked material…….
    My friend “NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF ALL INVENTION”

    The worst affected by this blocking will be Molvees themselves who “Dont do what they preach”

  • http://www.facebook.com/JawadJs Jawad Zubair Shaikh

    Assalam U Aliakum
    A great step from PTA

  • bang

    no use untill youtube and google is on new website keeps coming

  • http://funleak.blogspot.com/ zubair

    bilkul theek kiya internet is kaam k liye nahi ijaad hua tha great step hats off to u……….

  • Ali Khan

    why watch it …. when one can do it :P

    PTA sucks anewax ….

  • voil

    I think its a good news that pakistan is at first position in watching porn….. only those pepole watch porn stuff who dosent get opertunitise with girls… where as in countries like india where prostitutes are easily and adiquatly available, pepole prefer prostitutes rather watching porn.. this shows that pakistani youth is sharif.. they watch porn rather doing rapes…. and if i am not wrong, usa is at first position in rape cases.. probably 2 rapes evry minut.. correct me if i am wrong… so i think adult sites shud b allowd limitdly so that people cud keep thair lust to themslves

    • Shahid Saleem

      Consider yourself corrected. Read about the rapes in African country of Congo (used to be called Zaire).

    • khan

      Your approach is not correct… P*rn is not an alternate to rape… :-) Watching porn rather makes you h*rny…

      • Shahid Saleem

        So far studies have shown that porn leads to less sex crimes overall, not more.

        • admin

          Jaan deyo shahid sb, you want us to believe these researches that contradit Holy Quran?

          Just in case if you haven’t heard, Quran advises not to get involved in such things.

          • Shahid Saleem

            – Jaan deyo shahid sb, you want us to believe these researches that contradit Holy Quran?

            There is no contradiction here. We’re told to do some things in our religion and to avoid other things. I am not PROMOTING anything haraam. But there is a lot of superstition and ignorance associated with things that are haraam, and that is what I am posting about.

            For another example: alcohol. You can say it is haraam, that it has bad social effects, and bad for your health, etc etc. And you would be right. And I could reply, several scientific studies have shown that drinking one glass of wine a day lowers your risk of heart attack. I’m sure life insurance people have proof of this, too (since they are not too interested in paying insurance when someone dies…)

            That 100% does not mean you SHOULD drink wine. But, regardless, it is a fact that alcohol can help you live longer.

            Is this a contradiction? No, not at all. Read the first part of verse 2:219 carefully. This situation is covered.

            So, just because studies have shown that porn leads to fewer sexual crimes, does not mean porn is “THE ANSWER” to our social problems. It’s just something social scientists have found. However, no one seems to prove the opposite claim (porn means more crimes). Sadly, even Ali (I mean pappu) failed.

            If you’re uncomfortable with that, I can’t help you. But if you let people spread falsehoods, without correcting them, well. It’s your choice.

            • admin

              you didn’t warn others that’s it’s haram – instead you just advocated that porn will keep you away from sexual abuse. i could have digested your comment if you had warned them as well.

              playing around words won’t save you

              • Shahid Saleem

                – you didn’t warn others that’s it’s haram

                There is NO ONE reading this blog who needs to be told it’s haram. And if you think there is some ignorant person who thinks like that, YOU (yes, YOU) should have said that in your ARTICLE. How can you accuse me of not saying something that you didn’t say yourself?

                — instead you just advocated that porn will keep you away from sexual abuse.

                i am truly truly sorry to read that from you. I thought you were better than that. To advocate something is to PROMOTE it. Can you point to any place where I have advocated the use of porn? Or where I advocated the use of alcohol? You have your whole comments database in front of you.

                The evils of porn are NOT a secret, everyone knows about them. Just like the evils of alcohol. But to state that people who use porn are less likely to commit crimes is VERIFIABLE, no matter how evil porn is. Just like drinking a glass of wine reduces heart attacks, no matter how evil alcohol is.

                — i could have digested your comment if you had warned them as well.

                Oh? When people post myths about porn leading to sex crimes, you do nothing, but when I post showing evidence that they are wrong, you don’t approve my comments. Now, who’s telling the truth and who’s hiding it here?

                • admin

                  Okay here it went like this

                  Ppl were commenting that blocking porn will lead to rapes…

                  First commenter said:

                  Your approach is not correct… P*rn is not an alternate to rape… :-) Watching porn rather makes you h*rny…

                  You said:

                  So far studies have shown that porn leads to less sex crimes overall, not more.

                  Now who says you didn’t advocate porn????

                  For you, if you can’t get it:

                  You said: Studies have shown that porn leads to less crimes…

                  Anyone will take it like this: Watch more porn, to avoid crimes.

                  And please – there’s no justification to whatever you have said. It unintentionally exposed you.

                  • Shahid Saleem

                    – Ppl were commenting that blocking porn will lead to rapes…

                    Before continuing, please answer the obvious question: do you believe they are right or wrong in that belief? And, why?

                    Social scientists went looking for evidence that more porn => more crimes, but discovered the opposite happens in reality on a societal level. That doesn’t mean that viewing porn isn’t a sin. But to say porn leads to HIGHER crime levels is simply not being honest.

                    — Now who says you didn’t advocate porn????

                    I say it. Why don’t you understand? It’s possible for me to state a fact without having experienced it or advocating it.

                    If I say “earning money from interest makes you rich” does that mean I advocate opening a bank and giving loans on interest?

                    If I say “drinking one glass of wine a day makes you live longer” does that mean I advocate drinking?

                    If I say “farmers make more money from opium than they make from wheat” does that mean I advocate selling opium crops?

                    If I say “smoking makes you look cool” does that mean I advocate selling tobacco?

                    I don’t have to do any of the above to know they are true. And anyone who looks into the matter knows that I am right about all four things. They may be uncomfortable facts for you, but they are still facts, and I can state them without “experiencing” them personally or telling people to do any of those things.

                    So, once again: I do not advocate watching porn. In fact, it is sort of like committing “adultary of the heart”.

                    — Anyone will take it like this: Watch more porn, to avoid crimes.

                    You must have really really dumb visitors on your blog if you think anyone will think that.

                    — And please – there’s no justification to whatever you have said. It unintentionally exposed you.

                    Exposed me as what? Someone who does research and looks for evidence instead of simply following the herd? Someone who considers both sides of the equation? What, exactly, am I exposed as?

                    There’s no justification for your attacks on my character, either. You’re exposed something about yourself that way, too.

                    One last time: I have repeatedly stated that I don’t care about bans or anything as long as the government isn’t looking at my traffic. THAT’S ALL. I would be happier without the bans because they do interfere with latency of all websites hosted outside the country. But, I guess, that’s the price of living in Pakistan.

                  • Maani

                    @Admin
                    I think SS will reply with his answer, but let me clarify it with few solid facts.

                    If this is a religious forum/blog then. I won’t come here again. period.

                    OR if it’s a tech forum/blog… and religion is not obligatory to participate in debates, and people around the world, flowing any religion can express their thoughts here. then I can carry.

                    Now facts…

                    (Keep in mind) We’re Human first then we flow a religion. So put religion a part or personal, whenever you participate in debates, or declare your self a religious person, so we will keep it in mind before replying.

                    Talking about Islam, can you exactly tell me that what are the exact boundaries?…
                    The fact is that there is no clear line, different schools and different interpretations do exist. for example one can clime that even seeing a namuharam is a big Sin, so woman should be kept in houses :-( and one can clime that Shaving the beard is forbidden and the one who does so is a Fasiq, etc..
                    and if you want more definition of a Fasiq then read this to know more about strict Islam.
                    http://www.shaheedeislam.com/aap-k-masaul-or-un-ka-hal/ap-k-masail-or-unka-hal-jild-7/1467-daarhi

                    (aur fasiq ki gawahi bhi qabool nahi ki jati):-(

                    tu jinab agar mazhab beech mein lana he, phir tu mamila kharab hojaye ga, aur sirf porn tak mehdood nahi rahe ga. kewnke haqiqat yahi he k porn dekne wala bhi Fasiq he, aur aam film aur gane bajane wala bhi.
                    Haan gunah ki miqdar mein farq zaroor hoga. magr na os ko islam se kharij kia jasakta he aur na is ko. kewnke Islam se sirf wohi kharij hoga jo shirk kare yani khuda ko na mane, ya haram ko jayez qara de. yani shave bhi kare aur dawa bhi kare K yeh haram nahi :-(, ya porn bhi deke aur ise jayaz qarar de :-( :-(

                    tu bhai mazhab ko apne tak mehdood rakein, aur aakhirat me sab ne apna hisab dena he, aap ne kisi ka hisab nahi dena.

                    However if you’re concerned about the negative aspects on social grounds, then I agree, there are more negative effects then positive.
                    for example…
                    *Porn is like a drug that leads to addiction.
                    *Porn can increase masturbation habit.
                    *Porn can cause erectile dysfunction.
                    etc etc.
                    There are few positive however, and some of them are described in this article.
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_effects_of_pornography
                    So I think SS might referring to above research.

                    and best advice for youngsters + all adults is that, if you’re a Muslim, then it’s a sin, and you’ll be asked about it, on the day after life. (day of judgement)

                    On social grounds, it’s not a healthy habit as well, you can satisfy your desire in start, but for sure it’ll slowly lead you to an addiction, and you’ll waste more money and your valuable time on it in long run….
                    The time which you can use in some healthy and positive habits. or in study, or if you’re adult then time should be more valuable for you and for your career,
                    Some jobless/low income or socially depress victims however can not be blamed, if they’re addict to this evil due to their depression, for them my advice is that, life is full of opportunities, if you think you can’t carry on, or you’ve social problem, or have nothing important to do, then you can use this time in some creativity, and yoga is best alternative, or if you’re weak in 5 time praying then believe me Nimaz can counter any addiction, it’s proved…

                    There is always a solution for a problem, just concentrate well, think well and be positive throughout your life. I’m sure one day you will be amazed to see your self totally changed!, good luck.

        • khan

          Yes there have been numerous studies in this regard in western countries and a couple in japan as well. The results were mostly supporting Shahid’s claim however during same time period (80s-90s)

          a) An overall decrease in violent crimes was also observed.
          b) It was observed that percentage of rape cases by strangers increased whereas the cases with familiar offenders decreased.
          c) Ratio of reporting sexual abuse constantly increased.
          d) Overall law and order situation improved.
          e) Conviction ratio increased due to availability of scientific methods like DNA test etc.
          f) Social acceptability for casual sex increased.

          Since majority of these cases studies were relying on the data of cases reported by victim to the LEAs, increase reporting of sexual abuse also manipulated the results. In order to counter that effect, few case studies (particularly in USA) were conducted, where history and profiling of only sex offenders was observed and it was found that there was a direct correlation between p*rnographic addiction and sex crimes. However those case studies were strongly opposed by the lobby for p*rnographic industry on the grounds that if we observe the overall sex crime ratio and porn addiction statistics in a given period of time, the correlation was inverse. Moreover what they didn’t account for in those studies was the reality that the increasing social acceptability for sex before marriage in general and acceptability for casual sex in particular also played an important role in decreasing sex crimes during the same time period.

          There has been no case studies so far in any society where sex before marriage is taboo and casual sex encounter with stranger is unacceptable and almost impossible for the majority.

  • propakistani

    @Affan 4shared is opening no issues
    @wth pastebin.com is not opening on my qubee internet connection

  • Khan

    Sites should be blocked.. no matter what effects youths will have after these sites are blocked.. this is good thing.. and im hopefull that if PTA is able to do this youth will be more productive..
    an earlier comment on this page about youth will go to prostitutes,, that may happen but this is not a valid reason not to block the websites.. Next step government should make is stop prostitution.. it is haram and illegal so it should be the next priority ( may even be the first one)

    • khan

      It seems there are more than 1 Khan here and I better change my nick… :-)

  • Hamza

    Btjunkie has been blocked…
    Atleast for wi-tribers !!

  • aamir

    funny comments by some people.. whats route cause of this ?? our media and films and nowadays dramas too.. we see and this way it increases sex feelings in us. then we choose to watch porn and then if we dont control some even go to prostitute and some even go furthur and rape.. make your media clean and see the difference.. i still remember when in 2000 our media was clean and while watching dramas we really didnt even felt that there is anything called sex .. this media is responsible

  • Jack Mehoff

    It’s a good thing I have watched lots of porn already, now it is ingrained in my brain all I need to do is close my eyes. Selling tickets for Vulcan mind melds :-)

  • Bilal

    There is no doubt its a great step they should have taken it early

  • voil

    Does any 1 here knows basic reason that y paki boys are crazy abt adult sites??

  • Ahmed

    Really a good move, but I doubt the intention of any move by government because no matter what move they take the history tells that their intention were never been good.

    After reading this story I searched over the internet about this move found out that it actually seems like opening a gate to controlling free information flow in Pakistan. If the blocklist is only intended for adult oriented sites why some political sites have been blocked such as popular rollingstone website. Aljazeera covers this story in detail

    http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/07/2011725111310589912.html

    Read and then re-think.

    Regards,
    Ahmed

    • Shahid Saleem

      I heard today that esnips.com is also banned on Worldcall. It is a site with music (mp3) or video clips. Not necessarily anything like porn.

  • uth change

    thats really good pakistan mai ab log kuch tau kary gy ye bohat acha kam hy hala k menay pml[n]ki site py b ye band karnay ka suggestion dia tha 2 month pehly or ab ye possible hogya hy , kisi koom ko taba karna ho tau us mai fahashi phila doo tau wo tabha ho jai ge ye he america nay kia, so best of luck inshallah humara mulk bohat agy jai ga

  • MOHAMMED HASSAAN

    Nice Step is taking from PTA, Keep going until you get the goal.

  • Farebi

    if they blok all the adult content on the internet…no probs .. porn CD’s business will grow n nourish this way… hahahaha

  • a patriot

    BHAI AP LOGON KO KIA HO GAYA HAI?? MERI SAMAJH MAIN NAI ARAHA K PORN BLOCK HUA HAI TO YE AIK ACHA STEP AHI AUR CHAND LOG IS K KHILAF HAIN…mera in logon se sawal hai k agar in ki maa behan ye sab kuch dekhain to ye theek ho ga?? han ya na…..jo log porn ki himayat kartey hain is ka matlab hai k un ki maa behan bhi ayhi sab kuch dekhti aur kartii hon gi…wake up yaaar….why we r called ”PORNISTAN” because hamarey mulk main porn websites sab se zayda dekhi jati hain….end main yahi kahon ga k ye acha step hai is tarha anti islamic sites aur contents bhu ban hon gay aur main nai chahta k merey bachey ye sab kuch dekhain….bye

  • Imran

    Is there any Way to Notify PTA about Specific Porn Sites {I can’t Name} Because there are Famous and Tons of Old Porn websites which are Still Operating … Who the Fool saying that PTA is Blocking Porn. I Wish they are Blocking but its fake news.

  • Maj. Gen (R) S. Ayaz Mustafa

    it is very good decision to stop adult sites and they shud not be opened under any circumstances. these dirty stuff has ruined our society and moral values. good work PTA.. i m deptyu managing director Fouji foundation.tnx

  • http://www.learnpakistan.com Blooger Mian

    they blocked websites with .com domain name and domains with filtering keywrods like “porn”, escorts, sluts, and hoes, the hoes is the reason to block websites like http://aldoshoes.com http://planetshoes.com and http://shoes.com

  • abid ali

    that is realy really good news

  • Oye

    theak hai yai sb website ban honi chahiyay,lekin sath hi sath localy websites bhe ban honi chahiyay jin k through urdu language mai fahashi phelayi ja rahe hai,tamam cd’s dvd’s ban honi chahiyain jo aisay galat mawad sai bhari hoti hain,tamam indian channels ban honi chahiyain,fashion shows ban honay chahiyay,pakistan k andar dating points par ban hona chahiyay,mobile packages bhe ban honay chahiay,ku mobile packages rate sastay honay ki wajah sai hai time larkay aur larkiyan mobile par he chepkay rehtay hain,

  • Salman

    Is this the solution???????

    • Oye

      g han,yahe solution hai

  • Salman

    Is this the solution????

  • Truth Teller

    PTA ne in tamam sites per jo ban lagaya hai srif or srif CDs / DVDs ka karobar karnay walay logon ko khush karnay k liye lekin is se srif or srif ISPs ka karobaar mutasir hoga kissi ko koi nuksaan nahi hoga log alternative approch karenge hamaray mulk main policy maker nahi money maker ki bohtat hai

  • bash

    ProPakistani has got the said list of 1,000 websites, which we aren’t publishing it here for obvious reasons.

    come on!!!! are u kidding me?? give us the list

    so we can block them on the personal computer as well through firewall or internet settings or through windows host files setting

    u have to publish it this is not a Pakistani nuclear security file we are talking about

    we are trying to clean the dirtiest thing every stain removed is a step forward

    plz publish it here or atleast email me

  • Kaukab Iqbal

    We appreciate PTA Chairman Dr.Yaseen who initiate or the noble cause in the interest of Pakistani Nation , congratulates to PTA and the information ministry We hope this will be block for aver , as in cyber chafe mostly peoples are looking this web site, We as a Muslim Nation should think about it .We have to Safe our new Generation for better Pakistan.

  • http://www.accountancystudents.net/ Zee

    Thanks……. PTA

  • Faran

    A few years back; I met with a retired professor of very old age. He told me that he lived in several parts of the world. And he has been arguing with non-muslims about the bad effects of alcohol and pig meat. He said that he gathered a long list of logics while trying to convince them. He further added “At this age, I finally got a single answer i.e. Allah has forbidden me about these things”.

  • Junaid Tanoli

    Its a Bravo! step taken by PTA . I am really proud of u PTA.I don’t know why was PTA sleeping before this act it should have done earlier but anyways “der aye durust aye”.

  • DJ

    Not that I am a PORN fan… but censoring internet in any way, is a direct violation of human rights. We’ve all witnessed how PTA banned facebook before, and even uptill now, Warid has been unable to resume OperaMini or FacebOok app for Blackberry!
    We are entering the same suffocating internet environment which the people of KSA, China & Iran been going through.
    In the end, I must say that this shows that our parents have failed, and society and education system at large, that is why they are banning websites which otherwise one should not visit on their own! SELF CENSORSHIP is the best weapon, and only individuals can exercise that. It is wrong, no matter what justification anyone gives to it. Cheap popularity by our cheap government.

  • khalid

    Adult section of youtube should also be blocked along with firqa wariat section.

    Google k kaan khenchnay chaheain….

    Banda search karay. “Qurbani in Mina” tw results main aata hay “how sex started with porn pic”

    :(

  • http://www.newsofit.com News of IT

    Sir,
    These websites are not blocked by PTCL as reported by friend. He is operation a net cafe.

  • http://www.financeworld.pk rahim @ financeworld.pk

    I think it’s a good effort from Pakistani Government; but on the other hand media is also promoting thru’ movies, advertisement whether its indian movies or western channels. I think Gop should take steps to educate/provide guidance to youth instead of just banning the websites etc.

  • ADzz

    Its really a great news… at least some positive from PTA… BUT I JUST CHECKED THEY ARE ALL WORKING GUYZ…..

    Please somebody report it… ALLL THE PORN SITES ARE IN FULL SWING AND WORKING…

  • Chicken-Salad

    Kia baat ki hay janab nay…Porn shouldnt have been blocked..Ub Pakistan may rape cases exponentially rise kar jayein gay!! =P
    Bachian andar kar do saaree

  • http://hasnainali.wordpress.com Hasionnain

    Its a very good step taken by the PTA but I guess this is the not the end solution. Who wants to watch porn will watch in either cases. This is exactly whats happening in UAE , rules are far more strict then what we have in PAKISTAN but still people are managing to watch such stuff. .allot of solutions like Tunneling, VPN, Proxy are available to bypass this and its just a matter of time ! The best way is to educate the youth to have them sense between the right and wrong. Give them opportunities for WORK they wont get time to waste in porn. ! I bet make a survey PRON vs JOB porn will die it self

  • hasi

    excellent step…it should be done..

  • non-terrorist

    Pakistan needs Porn. The men here are so sexually repressed that they are all potential rapists. It’s better that they relieve their sexual tension over the internet then raping innocent women. It sickens me. If you tell someone don’t think of sex, they will of course, think of sex.

  • 3 star mz

    bohot achcha kiya. allah tala un logo ko aur himmat de jo yeh kam kar rahe he. aur meri guzarish he ke jitni bhi kharab sites he un sab ko band kare chahiye chun chun ke. inki waja se bohot gunah ho raha he is islami jamhuriya pakistan me..

  • waheed

    Its totally depends on us, either we want to see Adult Websites on net or not. Otherwise there are lot of ways to see porns on net, which is very difficult for PTA & ISPs to stop them. Its our responsibility how we use the inter net.

  • Muneer Ahmad

    Really? No list of sites, no proof…Wow
    The most visited po*n websites in Pakistan are still working…

  • waheed

    PTCL block a very useful search engine, which is http://www.bergfiles.com

    Bergfiles can be defined as a search engine for most file sharing sites available on the Internet today. As it stands right now, Bergfiles will let you download movies, music, games, software and e-books directly from Rapidshare, Megaupload, Hotfile, Mediafire, 4shared etc.

  • Ahmed Zia

    An excellent step taken by PTA, 100% suport it. This will led the youth to use the precious time instead of wasting on internet watching p**n. I really appreciate this step, now lets see if government can ban the CDs and DVDs in markets so the yought get an Islamic contents instead of p***.

  • jodat

    ye govt ka bahut acha qadam he allah sabit qadam rakhe

  • junaid

    konsi govenment or kaysi government yahan block hongay k bad bhi saab allow hay tum loog itni jaldi khush ho jatay ho porn website kabhi bhi band nahin ho sakteen abhi bhi kuch bohat website chal raheen hain pakistan=no rules=no regulation=pakistan :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p?

  • http://www.ghuman.synthasite.com Naeem Ghuman

    Good Decision PTA keep it up.

  • http://www.alhijamah.com Abu Umer

    Assalam-o-Alikum,
    Allama Iqbal r.a said,
    Waza main nasa’ra tu tamad’dan main hanood,
    Yeh wow musliman haan jinhain daikh kar sharma’ain yahood.

    There is difference b/w muslim and non-muslim.
    Our youth must read our muslim leaders successful stories.

    Remember broters, when adultery is cheaper then nikkah will be expensive.

    Instead to write vulgar why don’t we think (on individual bases) to obey our Allah and Prophet s.a.w.

    One must stop him/her from wrong doings by imaging that Allah is looking him/her.

    May Allah protect us specially our youth.

  • Mr. Baig

    A great move. Watch the video below to know it’s importance:

    Morals & Character for the Muslim Youth

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1VseEVtB8Y

  • http://tube8.com umar aftab

    this tube is also showing nasty stuff witch is harming our youth kindly take action about this website. I’ll very thnak full of you

  • Waheed

    Its good to stop porn web sites, but problem is more serious then that, rozee.pk is one of the best job hunting website in Pakistan. 1000 of boys and girls may be more use it daily and if someone mistakenly type http://www.rozee.pk.com instead of http://www.rozee.pk then this will lead him or her to a porn website, and think if he or she siting with their family members then how much embarrassment they will face. Here from this forum I request to the team of pro Pakistani please do something.

    • MUHAMMAD MUSTAFA

      This is really shocking….
      But there are good software’s through which you can block porn and other hateful websites on your PC.Such software’s will prevent you or any other PC user of your family to open porn websites accidentally.You can also add a password to software setting.k9 web protection is an awesome software to block porn and other hateful content.It is 100% free for non-commercial use and its accuracy rates are very good.You can download it from http://www1.k9webprotection.com/ . Its size is very small.

  • MUHAMMAD MUSTAFA

    Very good decision.

  • Safi

    It’s is a v.Right & good decision….well done PTA

  • ALi

    yar Muje apne computer me Ye Porn sites band karna chata hu plz koi tarqeb batao

  • asif

    There are many proxy websites to unlock any block website. As well as search engines can help to find unblock sites just by searching… So I think PTA should make more strong policies….

  • mubeen shahid

    well its right k shadi hojani chahiye like in malaysia when boy and girl come to age of 25. govt support thier marriage and they are only allowed to maary after offering hajj… how marvelous it is. wish such law is enforced in pakistan. or baki sab ki baat thek hai gunah sasta hai or nikah mushkil. well this system take lot of time to change. specialy when indain media wil be baned or logo ka dikhwa khtam hoga then its possible hmmmm

  • mubeen shahid

    well download software or instal opera us main parential control ki option hai

  • masaad

    well, but we should also think about showing some films stuff like dirty picture,cat walk of girl on cable T.V. in news channels.banning is good decision but we should ban this tpe of funtions in pakistan or showing.
    we watch t.v. with our whole family or eat with whole family with watching news.so if suddenly any type of thing is shown what can i say to my child after asking his question why you change program.kindly control t.v. first because t.v. to her gher me mile ga but net kisi kisi k pas.

    • MUHAMMAD MUSTAFA

      I totally agree with you.Pakistani govt should take action to sensor such type of stuff on both electronic media and print media.

  • Umar Aftab

    now the pakistani gov.t have taken some kind of action on this side, i think wich is very good and one thing i just want to tell that google and yahoo and dailymotion and this kind of others websites are also helping those websites. I just request to PTA to also take some kind of action about this. I’ll very thank full to them ! :-(

  • Ehsan

    Assalam o alaikum,

    dear all i think k ye sab karney ki bajeye Islami kanoon nafaz kar diya jaye har chees ka hukma hai us main aur har burai ko rokney ka tareeka, sab khatam ho jaye ga aur rah e rast pey ajain gey hum bhatkey huey log

  • advisor

    ye sab bewaqoof bna rahe hain!! pta srf dvd aur cd walon ka buisness chalana cha rahi he q k aj k dor me hm hr chez movie,songs,games,applications etc net se download kartay hain jis ki waja se dvd aur cd ki market gir gai he!! ban k bad ye market boht br jaigi!! jo pornography insan ghr me chup chap dkhleta tha ab wo roadon pe ajaigi! is sb se kch nahi hoga porn to tb bi rahega alg tariqay se!! ye koi thk plan nahi he jb ek user net ki fee deraha he to ye uska haq he k wo usay porn me use karay ya study me pta ka koi haq nahi k wo rokay! isi trah sms me bhi ban lgaya gya he 1500 words diye hain!! ye bi koi acha plan nahi he agr mjhe sms bhi pta se pooch kr likhna ho to celphon rkhne ka kia faida its just a time wasting program!!

    • Not willing to tell

      sms ban has been cancelled.

  • crack jatt

    changa hoya way

  • http://www.naeem.pk Naeem

    Once again stupid idea by PTA internet should be free of bans these website does not open by themself on someone’s computer unless someone want to open them and if he want to open then he is doing sin for himself not the PTA or anyone else and also ban of these website will lead to cases of rape and real life porn

    I hope stupid working at PTA get my point

  • Not willing to tell

    The pornographic ban has been removed officially?
    As earlier blocked sites are now available !!!

  • http://notavilable Saad

    Pakistan has become a religious state and its gone totally in control of religious fundamentals these types of steps creating conflict in the society

  • hmph!

    off to get a hooker in my car …before the car gets banned!

  • Reality

    Get into reality, Porn websites ko band kar k yea log(Pakistani Nojawan Nasal) Par Ihasan nahi karahay K ghalat rastay say ruk jayain. Reality yea hay k Jo log Porn Movies ka Business kartay thay wo Logo ka Broadband DSL etc ki waja say apna Business Khatam hoga ya tha. Koi Market say CD’s nhi laita or na hi CD’s Shop walay Mangwatay thay Q k koi laita nahi tha iswaja bus….. ap sub log samjh chuka hongay….

  • http://www.formula1.com racingsport

    why have you guys Blocked http://www.formula1.com , this is not a porn site nor does it offend any religion , its a freaking racing site….

  • http://move2k REHMAN KHAN

    dear sir
    plz block this web site bcz this is adult,first u chack this and after this plz block this

  • PornPro

    PTA Murdabad, Proxy Zindabad

  • fayaz

    porn porn porn porn agar still block raka tu main zana karon ga rap karon ga aur es ki sari zemadari jis nay porn block keya hay us pay ho gi main kulam kula kha raha hon

    • duago

      aqal ki batain karain dost… iski zemmedar tum khud hogay doosre nahi…

    • Muhammad Burhan Qamar

      How would you like someone having the same motives to rape your mother/wife/sister/daughter? Don’t talk like a beast when Allah(SWT) created you as ‘asharf-ul-makhlookaat’ !

  • ad

    go to http://www.freeproxyserver.ca/ and simply enter a URL of restricted website by ptcl

  • fedup

    Blocking porn is good step. lekin torrents ki sites ko block karne ki koi tuk hai kia? these ptcl guys are scumbags torrents sites are not for adult purposes only. ptcl ki site pe koi porn picture post kar de aur ptcl ki site b ban kar di jaey is this their criteria.

  • http://jojo pornwala

    bhai yehhhh ban kioo laga heeeee mujheee pornnnnnnnnn dekhnaaaaaaa bhuhat pasand heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • shujat

    Yar ye Government TARGTET KILLER ko pakarny me to nakam gtai per website band karne me kamiab hogi !!! heheheh Ata petrol cheni sesti to na karski ye kam kardya jes se gtharibon ka na lena na dena heheheh

  • SAM

    Allah has given a free will to Shetan that he can gumrah humans by the ways he can… so we have no authority to restrict.. If you think its wrong.,ok dont watch.but dont restrict a person because Allah gave us a free will.

  • talha khan

    bhai Hassan raja sahb apko shaed yeh nae pta k zina sy bhi bra ek gunah he jsy interest mtlb sood kehty hen jo apk mulk ki jaron men btha hoa apka bank accunt tou hga hi apko kia lagta he k apk psy wakae acunt men sirf pary hi rhty hen ary mry bhai extremest banna he tou ory treko sy bno phr yeh bch men jahilon wali bten na kro ap jsy bary pak saf hen ek ek psa jo ap use krty hen wo jahn sy ata he ako shaed pta nae he sd khor agr ak ghar k nchy bhi rehta he tou usy dhaky mar k nkalny ka hukam he Islam men ap porn ki bat kr rae heb

  • azr

    the important islamic job by pta

  • Aili

    Pta should block….

  • Warriour

    here its a great step and here some one tell about indian channels that its take affect to our families.. i also on his said please !! take a serious action on it…. there are some pron web sites i want to they also be block by PTA. please take an action on it.. thank you

  • ali

    where to report pron sites?

  • http://www.vubaba.com vubaba

    thats great news .
    thanks to PTA for banning porn sites.

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  • baqir abbas

    kuch sites abi bi ha jo block ni plz un ko bi block kiya jae
    mostly in par porn picture ati ha un ko block kiya jae

  • jahanzaib rehmani

    yar jo bhi ho pehly pehly banda in ko galiyaan nikalta he bad me slowly slowly recover ho kar in logon ko yanii pta ko duaaein deta he

  • http://pakistangirlsmobailno jay

    I jayprakash

  • Fahad

    yr chala dooooooooo boys ka kya ho ga.plzzzzzzz

  • Your-Papa

    who cares? go for proxy.
    We’re paying for damn internet! it is our right to use what ever we like.
    there are still thousands of sites available.
    so, shut the fu*k up and stop appreciating PTA’s work.

  • JAWIED

    pTA KO IN WEBSIT WALON SE KHARCHA PANI NAHI MELTA TU YHA PHIR SE YAHA HARKAT KARNE LAGHTEN HEN FASEBOOK PAR BHIO PABANGI HONI CHIA WO BHI PRON SE KAM NAHI HIA PTA KAHNCHA BAAZ HIAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • adeel

    good work PTA…….