We have witnessed internet users in Muslim world adopting different strategies in reaction to “Draw Mohammad” (Sallallahu Alayhi Wa-aal-hi-Wasallam). Millions of Muslims are protesting against the intents of a community on Facebook that is planning to conduct a contest for Prophet Mohammad’s Drawings.
Background of Draw Day
To discuss it further, it is necessary to understand how and why this Draw Day came into existence.
The Idea to make funny cartoons of Prophet Mohammed [PBUH] came from a Seattle Cartoonist Molly Norris who thought of this campaign in reaction to Comedy Central’s decision to censor an episode of South Park with depictions of Prophet Muhammad [PBUH].
South Park was threatened by Muslims if it showcased Prophet Mohammad’s depictions.
Supporters of Draw Mohammad day say that the campaign is in reaction to killing threats by Muslims; however, they ignore the fact that Muslims’ threats were actually the reaction of South Part depictions. If Draw Mohammad Day supports want to react on reactions, then this chain is not going to stop anytime soon.
Later, on 27th April after a wave of anger from Muslims around the world, she decided to withdraw this activity justifying that she didn’t intend to hurt or disgrace some particular religion.
As always there is a third party to take advantage of a situation so here as well. A page was created on Facebook to continue the similar activity. Owner identity is unknown. The page created even more response than the original activity since page owners put completely disgracing sketches on it.
Supposedly and apparently, admins of this page, allegedly the jewish, created hundreds of groups and pages in order to help removing that page. This advertised the page even in thousand more way in result.
Freedom of Speech and Mohammad’s Depictions
Many argue over this fact that depicting Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] is their basic human right, given to masses by the law of many countries. But, this freedom of speech comes with limitations – Wikipedia Notes:
Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and by many state constitutions and state and federal laws.
There are exceptions to these general protection, including the Miller test for obscenity, child pornography laws, speech that incites imminent danger, and regulation of commercial speech such as advertising.
Within these limited areas, other limitations on free speech balance rights to free speech and other rights, such as protection from imminent or potential violence against particular persons (restrictions on fighting words), or the use of untruths to harm others (slander). Distinctions are often made between speech and other acts which may have symbolic significance.
Now for those who are depicting Prophet Mohammad [PBUH], they clearly know that this will create hatred, mass violence and worst possible impact on Muslims’ feelings.
How Muslims are Reacting?
- Some go to said Fan page and they abuse the owners and non-Muslims there
- Some go to Fan page in question and argues on different topics giving their logics to prove the Fan Page unnecessary and indecent
- Some users are creating their Fan-Pages either opposing the fan page in question or otherwise for Prophet Mohammad praise (Sallallahu Alayhi Wa-aal-hi-Wasallam)
- There are people who are ignoring the situation but are feeling really bad in their hearts, and are unable to do anything
- There are people who are just not only ignoring all the happenings but they are not even concerned about the outcomes
- There are people who are sad over the incident but accepting it as they can’t do anything
Facebook’s Role in Promoting Draw Day [Allegations]
Facebook, allegedly, is supporting the Draw Day, and here are our arguments:
- Facebook is governed under its Terms of Services. Item 3.7 of Facebook TOS says “You will not post content that: is hateful, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence”
- “Draw Mohammad Day” was reported by at least 35,000 Facebook users, however, page is still live – giving the page a direct support (while it is spreading hatred – a violation of Facebook TOS)
- During the campaign, Facebook is banning pages created by Muslims against Jews. In this one example, Facebook banned a Page with-in 20 minutes of its reporting by jews
The people from all over the world have reported the page but even after thousands of reports, Facebook hasn’t removed the page, giving its indirect support for the cause.
For instance one may think that it may be Facebook itself! And why not, while controversy will result in clicks, impressions, visits to this page making them earn more as well as the creation of hundreds of other new pages and groups with lot more activity as an investment for future.
Facebook is bone of contention: Because its only the Facebook that could create such an impact. With power, there was responsibility on Facebook, which it never met.
If Facebook had banned the Draw Mohammad page, in early days – none of this could have happened.
What will happen on Draw Day?
On the 20th, people will post pictures on Blogger, LiveJournal, wordpress.com, vox.com, TypePad, Flickr, Picasa, imgur, yfrog, twitpic, and of course, on their own blogs and in videos on Youtube and elsewhere. But again, Facebook is the root cause.
Why Draw Day is Worst than Previous Blasphemous Acts?
This instance of blasphemy is not like what it had happened before in Sweden and Norway. We know that there are websites that spreads blasphemous content across the web.
But, in this instance, Web Giant Facebook is part of the game, and while Facebook has roots to each corner of the world, you can calculate the scale of blasphemy on May 20th, 2010.
What Best we can do?
Unity, under one leader!
Large scale ridicule on May 20th will ignite worldwide riots and unrest. Even worst, anti-Islam elements now have found a way to tease Muslims.
As initial response: Pakistan government has reacted and banned said Fan Page (only one URL), under Pakistan Penal Code, article 295 and 298 that is related to blasphemy law.
Ministry of Information Technology and Telecom decides on what to ban and not to, based on the rules of the land.
It merits mentioning here that MoIT has already banned around 8 million pages on internet (As per Jang News) that has any in-appropriate content and which comes under blasphemy.
On 20th, MoIT will ban as much URLs as possible.
But, let’s go bigger – governments and Media from Muslim countries must unite at this time.
This war can’t be won on roads and battlefields; instead a strategic media campaign is needed to make the western world realize that they are acting in uncivilized manner. It is them who are creating unrest and doing extremist activities.
To Boycott or Not to Boycott
There are opinions for and against boycotting the Facebook. There are people who think boycotting the Facebook is a form of protest – to make the Facebook administration realize their biased strategy, while others think they will stay on Facebook and will fight on the platform.
ProPakistani’s Stance
We are Boycotting the Facebook on May 20th, 2010 and we will abandon all our activities on Facebook ever after. We have this stance because:
- Staying on Facebook for reporting the bad URLs is pointless, as Facebook has made its mind to not to listen you
- ProPakistani (not saying about you) can’t preach at a platform where people are abusing and using indecent language
Note: ProPakistani’s stance is an individual opinion, and is not imposed on anyone.
Note: This article has input from Jabran Rafique as well.
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Great step by propakistani, i think say no more facebook will be better for all muslims.
It is part of faith to love Mohammad ( Peace Be Upon him) more than you love yourself, your family and anything else in this world.
I have proudly deactivated my Facebook account.
Talha, USA
We must deactivate our Facebook Account.DEACTIVATE Ur Account for minimum
1 Day.Ur account will be in the same position after activating it
again.Give Reason of Deactivation tht,”I AM DE-ACTIVATING TO PROTEST
AGAINST THE EVENT:- EVERY BODY DRAW MOHAMMAD DAY.Do this to show a
“GREAT PROTEST” to Facebook Management, & to show tht v Love
PROPHET MOHAMMAD (Peace Be Upon Him)post this as ur
status so that the others may also know about this
Why not we leave it completely, If any body do wrong with the Personality of NABI PBUH then we just leave from him for some specific time ? Think
Return to FB again? No way. I will never support FB again in my life. Damage done is done! If we have any shame/gheerath then we should shun these guys for ever.
Well done!!
its great stance from pro pakistani, i ll never use facebook again.
It is very much clear now that Facebook is governed by Zionist Jews… We should immediately and permanently Boycott the site… Majority of their users are Muslims, if we all leave Facebook, their user count will decrease drastically and will result in serious financial blow to this jewish company…
Well said bro!
The government should circulate this issue with other Muslim countries and ask them to block this facebook for good till facebook confirms and undertake that this type of incidence will not take place and further steps should be taken to sue facebook for such a heavy amount that it has to be close down for good.
Be a Muslim to take part in this seriously.
thanks; amir bahi making his part in this initiative plz joing this community “boucot facebook” on Orkut and make a full protest against them on other SM network.
I am usually not bothered by such issues but this time they have crossed all limits.
If pakistan can comeup with a similar social networking site with necessary privacy issued addressed I will stop using facebook altogether.
For now I have deactivated my account in protest.
YES!! BOYCOTT AND BAN FACEBOOK FOREVER!!!!
we solute the Pakistani court on banning of Facebook.
It is possible to make a sensor of facebook.com on 192.168.1.1 gateway of PTCL, so that people all over Pakistan can’t access facebook?
192.168.1.1 is your PTCL modem/router page. Only you can access it. It is not the gateway of PTCL.
Its Ok,
but there must be filtered firewall’s on PTCL/PTA Servers, they can..
Facebook is culprit as it allowed such discrimination acts and communities which should not be allowed.. We can best do is to delete our accounts.. All Muslims should do it and we can report to google that facebook has started a campaign against the Muslims..
Source for News:
http://www.pakdirectory.net/Pakistan_Provinces/Sindh/Sindh_Localities/Karachi_Areas/Karachi_Directories/301901-18276.html
i think fb should be banned permanently in Pakistan. they have crossed their limits.
Mr Aamir (and propakistani) I fully support your decision.
I cant say anything about the other option of joining this page:
http://www.facebook.com/HonourProphetMuhammad?v=wall
Is it better to boycott or is it better to join this page which report the Blasphemous Act?
Or should PTA just let this url open so we can report it?
Here is my opinion: What’s the point of reporting it when Facebook has made it’s mind to not to listen you
I agree to Aamir but I will also suggest that if our government blocks the service in Pakistan and pursue the same to other Muslim nations, the 47% of facebook users who are muslims can cut the facebook revenue… we can be together to show the strength… Time to UNITE…
I’d like to disagree. This attitude never helped. I’m totally for blocking facebook for the day, as it gives a clear message; but not reporting the page is actually helping whoever made that page in the first place. Keep reporting – If they didnt block it at 35000(ALLEGEDLY), what will they do at a 100,000? A million? A Billion?(world’s muslim population).
Don’t just decide that they wont listen, so you won’t speak for your right. Speak, they’ll listen eventually.
Respect your thoughts, as you said, one should not give up.
And btw, Usually 700 abuse reports are enough for getting a page banned if it’s fans exceeds 10K mark (read it somewhere).
Yes well ‘somewhere’ isn’t an authentic source.
I m sure facebook is a commercial organization and losing its user that cause revenue for them can make them re-think over it… its not about the huge campaign straight away… but we can evolve into big movement with Muslims stopping usage of facebook… I m sure Muslims cannot compete with others because we are losing economic war against them… we hate jews but are ready to use all products made by jews… we hate some western nations but we are ready to be there for our good… there are so many avenues where we muslims contribute to the growth of there economy and it happens for so many time that they impose sanctions on our economy… pity…
Good article to create awareness.
but fb should be banned in all the islamic countreis lyk saudia arabia,iran
Yes I agree. It’s ironic and absolutely outrageous that no other Muslim country has banned facebook?
What about Saudi Arabia and UAE? Did it get banned there yet?????
I fully support the ban on facebook by our government. It should be a permanent ban.
Look at Al-Jazeera from UAE:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/2010/05/201051994155758717.html
It still even has the facebook plugin installed!!
Don’t they care even a little??
Facebook’s been banned in Saudi Arabia, UAE and Iran for a long time now.. they’re smarter than us.
I think that It is very good step but I advertise on facebook. Please PRO PAKISTANI make the website like facebook through which I promote and talk with my friends, playing games like mafia wars, farm ville etc. Please take comment as message
join
http://www.muxlim.com
a islamic social network
Another Pakistani site is http://kulache.com/.
http://www.netwatan.com a best Muslims Social Network I have seen.
why not have a pakistani or muslim facebook instead. Don’t we have any intelligent web developer in Pakistan? You can earn lots of money i know i wish i knew how.
Great step ProPakistani. I am too going to delete my Facebook account permanently.
Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence. ~Robert Frost. Fight back, not with violence but with intelligence.
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“FB No More !”
To Participate give us your cell # by sending email to “[email protected]”.
Pakistanis should leave facebook for ever even if they beg for their curse.
@Basit
Thats Good All Should Delete FB Account & let Then Suffer
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Qurran o ahades sy sabit hai k kuffar kabhi tumhary khair khowa nahi hoskaty yahn tak k tum unka deen ikhtiyar na karlo.
or yeh bat sabit hochuki hai k kuffar tarh tarh k harby istimal kar k muslmano ki dil azari karty rehty hain us k bawajood hum or hamary hukmranon ko sharm nahi ati k unka bycott karin.
thy to aabaa wo tumhare hi magar tum kya ho
hath py hath dhary muntazir e farda ho.
Allah hamain in yahood o nasara k bycott karni ke tofeeq ata farmae, or hamary hukmrano ko bhi gherat aaee (Ameen summa ameen)
waslam
Raza Hameed
F**K FACE BOOK ! PTA Blocked the bl**dy Website ! BOYCOTT BOyCOTT BOYCOTT !
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I think we should take this threat as an opportunity and develop a website like face book. I would say Propakistani should take a lead and work on this.
love your idea, but we are bloggers, not developers. However, we can finance any such team, anybody around? come forward!
Yes Sir I’m ready to do that no need to finance b/z i love my Mohammed And It’s my duty to give some thing alternate of face book to my muslim brother & sisters
Try this:
http://muxlim.com/
Great work Amir bro!!!
Batla do Gustakh-e-Nabi(Sallallahu Alayhi Wa-aal-hi-Wasallam) ko gairat-e-Muslim zinda hai.
djhassoo
all Pakistani ______ … thanks to you i have lost my job today .. all my work was related to facebook and application development but yes due to shit websites like this that try to use peoples emotions falsely its gone and so is my job … Did facebook do this .. no .. so many people use it daily to network who were not even involved.. i guess pakistan is supposed to remain illiterate for the next century .. nice going u _____ … i wish propakistani shuts down quick and looses a lot without the facebook .. because it will .. mofos
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I am loving my Muslim brothers and sisters who loved facebook but proved that it has no value in their eyes when it comes to our Prophet (PBUH) who gave this world a model of peace & humanity.
We, more than a billion on this planet are not heard but a few million jews are heard, we should know our worth how we can damage their business just by NEVER visiting facebook again.
dude the thing is that page should have been banned .. or some pages could have been whats the use in banning all of the facebook … it doesnt make any difference.. if u get robbed ull say ill kill myself and fix the job .. rather than trying to find who robbed u .. wow
If facebook can block anything against halocast in 20 minutes of page creatin & not something that is hurting more than a billion Muslims you think facebook isn’t part of it ?
AOA,
Well I think We Should find any Muslims Facebook
Or Soon I make Muslim Social networking Site…
I hope Muslims specially Pakistan Can Support Us
http://www.netwatan.com check out this.
@stagq _____
I doubt your claim, if you are an application developer for facebook you must be having a little idea how to bypass the blockage (if that effects your living) which is a simple, but you don’t know how to do that? If that is you don’t know then I doubt you are an application developer for facebook. In last if facebook is the criteria of being educated & qualified then the world was illetrate before facebook..right_____?
An emotional story you told us but I am not impressed, and not many people will be.
Here is an interesting theory about the radical extremist site that threatened south park creators http://bit.ly/a43oxD
Facebook should be banned and we must follow our own webs, this is communication waR, and we must know how to fought with them
Excellent work by Propakistani.
We need to boycott facebook. all mainstream jewish social networking sites should be banned in the muslim word including twitter and youtube.
this issue needs to be brought up in the UN and against america directly in their face.
i am going to boycott facebook.
all muslims can live without facebook, facebook will suffer a great loss of revenue.
Plus if we dont get affected by what they want us to get affected by, rather we send it back to them, we are going to be successfull.
@khalid ahmed … if u know i have been making games and applications for pakistani people and mobile companies … if pakistanis are not using it and the traffic is going down will it be good enough ..
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Facebook is earning through advertisements shown to the visitors. Reduction in traffic means reduction in earnings.
So the only solution is to block FaceBook by muslim governments in their regions & de-activation of facebook user account by Muslim users until facebook blocks the blasphemy pages from their website. I request muslims from all around the world not only de-activate their facebook account but also send e-mails to the higher authorities in their countries & file petition in their local courts to get BAN facebook in their until they remove blasphemy pages.
“…a strategic media campaign is needed to make the western world realize that they are acting in uncivilized manner. It is them who are creating unrest and doing extremist activities.”
WHAT?? it is YOU muslims who are extremists! you are interferring in other countries laws! we have the right to make drawings about anything we want! this is called FREEEDOM… Mohammed is YOUR prophet, not ours! and your people are killing our people in the name of islam, so we are protesting about it.
If you muslims are too dumb to understand such a simple thing then i think you all should get the f**k out from western countries and go live your lives alone in the middle east.. Its good for us we wont have any muslims on facebook.. Perhaps the whole internet should be banned in Pakistan cause you -_____ cant live with freedom of speech.
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Okay here is the situation: Why in this world it happens that Freedom of Speech only sticks or is associated with drawings of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH], don’t we have other issues to express our freedom?
I respect your freedom, but believe me this is no freedom, this is teasing and harming someone’s sentiments.
And those who are killing people in your country, they are no Muslim. I can firmly state that Islam strictly asks us to not to harm anyone in any form, unless not in war with any country. (War is defined only when the state leader calls for a war, an individual, a group or party can’t initiate a war, for instance the way Talibans do)
And just for the sake of definition, extremism is a state of human behavior, you can’t categorize it based on someone’s religion.
There is a thing called respect, lolote. Along with right of freedom, and freedom of speech, be mature enough to handle it. It makes no difference to our beloved Prophet whether you draw him or worship him. It is you who is affected.
Our people are killing your people? Grow up and look around you. The crime rates in the west and the crazy attacks are done by your people who are no doubt emotionally unstable due to the pointless lives that you lead. Like the only important thing in your life is whining about Muslims.
AND, we’re not coming to the west because we are inspired and awed by you pasty whites. Our students are intelligent enough to get scholarships and beat you at your own universities.
so instead of begging for freedom of speech, go make yourself a civilized enough person to have a discussion without swearing and instead of drawing Prophets, make something out of your own pointless life.
@Lolote you said that Muslims kills you ? Did we go in America or America in Afghanistan, Did we hit Israel or Israel hit Palestine ? currently we defend ourself but be aware when we wakeup and hit you peoples……………………
Lolote is an indian,
and ProPakistani i am not against your opinion i have also deactivated my account but i think we should keep using facebook but not click on any ads, since as much as i know they ad policy is pay per click so they won’t earn if we don’t click on ads and if we keep using facebook, they will lose bandwidth i know it won’t be a big issue for fb, but think if we start to use fb 10% more than we do everyday or even 100% and not click on ads, and all Muslims do that, wouldn’t this result in fb coming to it’s knees?
may be we should e-mail other Muslim government asking them to ban fb, perhaps they will react i am very much sure about IRAN
I totally agree… and if facebook doesnot pull down this page, a massive lawsuit is expected in an internation court against racisim and promoting violence on social network.
Have to agree with the previous commenter above. Freedom of speech is paramount to western democracy. Depictions of Muhammad have been symbolized as over reactions by radical muslims – this would not have ever become an issue if people hadn’t literally been killed for drawing Muhammad.
Western democracy depends upon the freedom to speak in any manner you feel like doing so. You do not have the right to not be offended – you do, however, have the right to cause offense back if you like.
The strength of your country is determined by how much you value your critics. If you ban everything that offends you, silence all criticism of you, your values, or your nation, you are weak. It doesn’t matter how many missiles you can throw, if you can’t even take one tiny little drawing of Muhammad, you are weak. And I think you’ll be shown to be weak when May 20th arrives.
So this is demonstration of strength rather than of freedom, no?
Why can’t it be a demonstration of both? Strength in a democracy comes from freedom.
Freedom for mocking with someone? That’s amazing!
US law for freedom of Speech comes with a limitation, you can’t abuse anyone, make fun of him, or things that can initiate fight. Simple rule, isn’t it?
Yes, freedom for mocking someone. Freedom for mocking anyone – everyone, if you want. That’s what democracy is all about.
US law for freedom of speech includes exemptions for political speech. For example, burning the US (or any flag) is meant specifically to invoke hatred among those that find the flag, as a symbol, important to them. But it’s not just legal – it’s protected speech! If police arrest someone for burning a flag, their department will be swarmed with lawyers.
The same goes for Muhammad. It’s a symbol – a symbol whose depiction offends many people. Drawing it purely to cause a reaction might have it fall out of the bounds of freedom of speech. But that’s not what Draw M
But that’s not what Draw Muhammad day is about. It’s meant to demonstrate that freedom of speech is more important than offending someone’s sensibilities. I don’t hate Islam, or Muslims – but I do love my freedom to say what I think and feel. And so, tomorrow, I’ll be drawing Muhammad that is the first amendment. Consequences be damned, the first amendment is the foundation of my country, and I’m happy to defend it in this small way.
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Be it like that,
Would you draw holocaust? or you don’t feel like doing so?
Hmm, nice question. My drawing skills are a bit rusty when it comes to drawing people under enormous pain.
But I can draw middle eastern people from 1.5 millennia ago just fine.
On a more serious note, No, I wouldn’t participate in drawing holocaust events for the purpose of mockery, although if I felt it was necessary for me to depict a historic event on paper, I might.
Again, if I choose not to draw Jewish people getting murdered, it is not because I am afraid of offending them. Humans have a right to offend, as long as the offense is not physical, and does not rely on obscene language.
Well in this case, you may ask for my expertise for drawing holocaust, you wont regret.
Coming to your thought for not drawing holocaust – can you please share the exact reason for not doing so? In fact, I will appreciate if you send me a drawing, to convince me that you are REALLY free enough to draw anything.
I wouldn’t draw the holocaust. No reason to. I may oppose Israel on many policy issues, but there really isn’t any particular reason to draw the holocaust.
Drawing the holocaust wouldn’t serve any political purpose, it’d just be a way for me to offend someone. The jews wouldn’t rise up and try to kill me, they wouldn’t form mass protests in front of my house. They’d probably just note how pointless it was.
Drawing Muhammad serves a more practical purpose: It calls out radical muslims. It’s well worth offending the so-called moderates if the radicals are shown to be the cowards they are. People have literally died because they drew, or published pictures of Muhammad. I can’t think of anyone that’s died drawing the events of the holocaust.
Why only Mohammad then? See, this is where the freedom of your speech gets limited. showing Immense pain has nothing to do drawing the Holocaust, its just that you sympathize with the people who went through it, WHY? because you feel as if you know what happened. But since hardly any of you read the Quran, you would not know the realities of Islam, hence comes your Intended offence to the religion.
And please, humans are beautiful creatures? Because they can offend and get offended? Humans have been differentiated from apes for a reason. They have been given a brain. To think with, and to improvise the actions that would cause offence to others. The beauty isn’t from the part where humans cause offence, its the part where they choose the most effective method to reduce the offence caused.
Also, this is a direct violation to the rights of ethnic minorities in your areas. Why, for the sake of fun, target only ONE religion? Make it a
“Draw History Day” so that EVERYONE can have a chance at their creative skills. Be it from the 12 faces of Hindu Gods to the Holocaust. That would be FREEDOM, no?
this is just a scam, hiding behind the boundaries of the word freedom. A scam, an act that deserved, if not invited a reaction. Its our right to react, so deal with it. ;)
I think Religion is something of massive value to an individual, and if a massive group of ppl bring up a campaign to to promote racism against a religion, ill consider it a direct call for violence, nd here, facebook is promoting it…
There is no hatred to be found with Draw Muhammad day – except against those that would tear down the foundation of our democracy. And it’s certainly not a call to violence – in fact, the creation of the yearly event was meant specifically to counter calls of violence. It will be happening every year until anyone can freely draw Muhammad in whatever form they choose without fear of reprisal from some radical muslim who is offended by democracy.
you seriously do sound like there’s a lot of coke in your head.
what I’m wondering now is if it’s the fizzy coke or THE COKE aka cocaine that’s made you this way :)
Soft drink, of course. It’s a name I use because I rather like the double connotation. Wish I could afford cocaine – that way, I could use such wealth to further publicize tomorrow’s holiday.
@cokehead
go go Freedom of Drawing… Draw holocaust day… it will not serve any purpose at all but a relief and joy for me…
so ermm let me get this straight.
I can start calling my self Picassohead(just to sound glamorous) and draw anyone’s mom’s portrait, be it even nude?
freedom of speech. right darling? :)
a Muslim Social Networking website is already out there: http://www.madina.com, i request admin to tell there users about this
@Cokehead
you are a little weak, first of all, this issue is not first time and second banning fb does not make us weak, we are blamed for terrorism we fight for it our intelligence agency ISI is blamed for supporting Taliban we fight for it, we are blamed for Mumbai Attacks (we fight for it) and a lot different things but when it comes to our Prophet we won’t be silent, you said we have the right to offend back, WE ARE OFFENDING not using fb will hurt it’s earnings Muslims ARE ORDERED IN QURAN TO NOT MAKE FUN OF OTHER’S RELIGION so IT IS THE WAY WE USE!
Actually, I agree. If you don’t agree with Facebook’s policy of not censoring political speech, then don’t use it. I recommend googling ‘Delete facebook account’ for the account deletion page – deactivating means you’ll still be on the members list.
Another principle of democracy is voting with your feet – if you don’t agree with the values of an organization, don’t associate with it.
I disagree with your reasoning, though. Draw Muhammad Day is political speech – it is NOT a hate group. Go ahead, make a ‘Draw the holocaust day’ to protest the protest of radical fundamentalist Islam. If Facebook censors it, I’ll hop in the boat with you and support it’s reinstatement.
Draw the holocaust day page was blocked from face book after 20 minutes of reporting. Please go through below and I hope you will fight with us for reinstatement of that page as per your commitment….. Cheers… :-)
http://www.thejidf.org/2010/05/action-alert-muslims-launch-hate-group.html
Someone needs to learn how to distinguish between mythology and reality, and stop being hypersensitive as a pantywaist to trivial issues like this.
It is impossible to see how the group’s intentions are hateful, but on the other hand, it’s easy to see how “drawing holocaust” is hateful.
Are you so close minded as to not see the vast difference here? The latter one depicts people being killed as a result of mass hatred and treachery, while the former one, your cause, just depicts some dude from 6th century, regardless of what shape or form they draw him.
that 6th century guy is our prophet, just like Americans won’t like cartoons of Columbus ( who is also a 6th century dude ) we won’t like cartoons of Prophet Mohammed we won’t act like this if one has had made fun of our politicians regardless of how important he is to us (such as Liaquat Ali Khan) why doesn’t people debate instead of making fun, it is a childish act it looks like that these type of people aren’t really mature
There are any cartoons of Columbus, not all of them complimentary. Similarly for nearly anyone else you care to name.
It’s your religion, your rules, your choice to comply or not. Your rules apply to no one else.
And Columbus was a 15thC dude.
Columbus was a 15th century dude and you can draw all the pictures you want of him.
As other commentors noted, go ahead – draw Columbus. He was a d**k anyway – read up on him, it’s actually kind of interesting if a little gross. He was a world-traveling pimp pretty much, sexing up (and thus devastating with disease) several island nations. He just sort of got lucky legacy-wise when he hit the US.
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@Cokehead,
Columbus was better than Mohammad. So, maybe we should give Columbus the respect of not being depicted on paper, even with the load of bastardly things he committed?
And why the heck should Americans worry if someone draws a cartoon of Columbus? Evolve a brain, please.
Dear Kevin…
We being from different religions and different worlds hold different views. For me the holocaust was a setup by zionists where they incresed the reported death counts and exagerated everything to accomplish their missions. i.e. seperate homeland in middle east….
For you Muhammad (PBUH) is nothing but sixth century dude.
Grow up man… The only way to survive is to respect each other beliefs and avoid controversies. I dont want to redicule holocaust and i expect that you dont ridicule my beliefs… :-)
Why can’t we just live in peace…? Why do we want to increase controversies to a level that another holocaust might proceed… (and its not a threat… :-D)… Believe me that most of the Muslims are not extremist… But they might become one if you will try to disgrace their prophet…
So lets just live in peace and try to respect each other’s belief…
I have never been so proud of the Pakistani Court. I am proud to be a Muslim and Pakistani. I am leaving facebook. I think we should make our own social networking site. Only for Muslims. Why do the Jews make things like this and why don’t we make something that hurt them in the same way. We should think about it.
Well Done ProPakistani …well written post… also appreciate n support your stance … We love Prophet Muhammad (Sallahu Alihi Wsalam) …Hes sacred to any muslim more than ones own life …
This ban shouldnt be lifted till they dont apologize openly to the muslims and delete all islam hate pages/groups. And if this event happens (Allah Forbaids) then this ban should never be lifted.
We dont want facebook, we have excellent talent that could produce better networking sites locally.
hey anyone noted that those crazy Talibans (who called themselves MUJAHIDS) didn’t even said a bit about it, — another proof they were indian agents!
The journey of a million miles begins with ONE step.
In this case the first step here would be what Pakistan’s High court took.
Voh kehtay hay na.. aik banda karta hay tau bakee bhi dekha daykhee karna shuru kar dete hein..
Hopefully, other Muslim countries will also take this matter seriously and walk in Pakistan’s footsteps.
Staying on the same platform, i.e. facebook & fighting it out there will be completely pointless as many of you have already opined.
I am a habitual facebook user as it helps me casually keep in touch with friends around the globe.
But I am NOT and NEVER WILL BE willing to take that WEE bit of luxury be at the cost of the dignity of the GREATEST MAN to have EVER SET FOOT on earth, i.e. Prophet Muhammad S.A.W.
The dear Prophet S.A.W had such deep & intense feelings for his Ummah, us that is, that He wept He was told that there would be those from his ummah who would be thrown into the Hell fire. Such were his feelings.
& today, it’s about time WE, the Ummah gave it a THOUGHT :
“what are we willing to do for the Man who left us the path that will lead us to paradise on Judgement day”
Why on earth Europe is so hybersensitive on anything on holocast? If you talk about so called misery of jews in holocast then that so called holocast thing the only “bloodshed” that if ever happened in centuries? What about 1st and 2nd world war? Why so called civilized nations are not ashamed of that bloodshed they are responsible for? Why not talk about uncivilized powers responsible for 1st and 2nd world war? Why talk about the so called misery of holocast & no freedom of speech to find if this really ever happened? Who defines boundries of freedom of speech ? Your so called civilized world?
I was surprised to see how shamelessly some pictures show jesus as g@y (presenting as if Muslims, God forbid say so) when all Muslims are are bound to respect all Prophets. Followers of other religion know this that this so called “intolerent” religion followers will never ever try even a line of Jesus because they love Jesus (PBUH) & Moses (PBUH).
This “some dude” from 6th century has followers more than in a Billion, you showed how ignorant you are about such a person with so many lovers in present, in past and will always have in future. You really need to study his life which you never did. Sir George Bernard Shaw wrote ‘The Genuine Islam,’ 1936 can help.
Quote:
Thomas Carlyle in ‘Heroes and Hero Worship and the Heroic in History,’ 1840
“The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only.”
“A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the world’s Maker had ordered so.”
“Why on earth Europe is so hybersensitive on anything on holocast?”
Probably because it involved the suffering and murder of millions of people, and not just Jews, and recently enough that there are still witnesses and perpetrators alive today. Something that many are deeply ashamed of, and most of us grieve over. Other than that it was an entirely trivial incident. Certainly nowhere near as important as an image of a man who died over 1500 years ago.
The incident in question is of no importance to me – as no one from my family was killed there, nor any friend. However, it is apparently of high importance to you.
Should i disrespect your ideology? despite i care least for whatever it was? any thoughts?
Go ahead, do so. Here’s the difference though: Offending him, or other Europeans, won’t result in death threats (or deaths.)
Ridicule? Sure. Angry words? Probably.
But unlike Draw Muhammad day (where someone may very likely die for participating), you will suffer no ill consequences, other than someone being offended. It’s your right to cause offense, and to be offended – human rights are lovely, aren’t they?
human rights are for sure lovely… send me ur email and will send u a beautful picture of holocaust with captions ofcourse…
and please respect my Freedom of Drawing and I will stop all who will condemn Draw Muhammad Day… hehehe
No thanks, it’s not within my artistic preferences.
You also have the right to completely ignore Draw Muhammad day, you know (it’s actually sort of the ultimate goal.)
Artistic preference or you don’t want to die crying after you see horrific pictures?
I’ve been on the internet awhile, I know what a horrific picture looks like. And I don’t see why I’d die crying from a mere picture.
No importance to you? But Draw Mohammad Day is of importance? So you’re more concerned about a drawing than you are about human lives? Disrespect all you want, just know you’re a d**k for doing so. I’m a d**k too for disrespecting your religion, we’re all d**ks here. You’re just a much d**ckier d**ck because your d**ckery trivializes genocide instead of superstition, but what can you do.
No i don’t disrespect your beliefs or anything sacred to any religion or ideology.
It was just to make you think that you would look like a ___ while you will draw Mohammad [PBUH], exactly like what you said.
You are disrespecting our beliefs by refusing to allow us depicting the prophet!
He means that you are being much worse to us than we are to you for drawing the prophet. We draw him, you threaten us.
I didn’t threat you, and those who did were Jewish to fan the fire. He was member of CIA, read complete story here: http://bit.ly/a43oxD
Consider if threats were there, they were reaction, it were you who started the bad play.
Peace
lolz… Dude!
Lets say i want to abuse your mama / sister / daughter / wife since i have freedom of speech… And if you dont allow me to abuse them on their face… then i would claim that you are disrespecting me… lolzz… does it make any sense???
To us.. Muhammad is more sacred than our mother, sister, wife & daughter… As simple as that… :-)
If you hold freedom of speech more important as compared to your prohphet… its your problem…
For us… Prophet is over and above all relatives, all beliefs and everything else in this universe…. :-)
Mass murder is an incident of no importance? That about says it all.
Feeling compassion for others is not an ideology, it’s being human, a normal human attribute.
No one I know was killed in the Holocaust, just as no one I know was killed in the Killing Fields, Rwanda, the Vietnam War or the Partition, to name just a few other incidents, but I feel a sadness over the suffering and deaths, nonetheless.
Feeling compassion for other is being human, thanks God you got the idea – now here is the point: We suffer when you draw pictures.
I do not suffer for such things at all Amir bhai… ;) Please edit the following… ” Ullu ke pathon kee waat lag gayee”…
Go go Draw Holocaust Day…
Hey u all Cokeheads… send me ur emails… just completed one holocaust… hahaha…
So you seriously put a drawing of some man in a turban on a par with what happened in the incidents I mentioned? I’ll leave others to draw the obvious conclusion.
Dear AC…
Lets agree that holocaust was one of the most cruel crimes against humanity but…
As per our belief, Prophet Muhammad is the most important and respectful personality in whole humanity.
Now would you like to make peace with it or you want to rage WAR on us because we dont want you to disgrace our prophet…?
Whether peace is more important to you or making fun of God and prophet is more important? Does your freedom of speech starts with Allah and ends with Muhammad??? Don’t you have anything else to make fun of?
And i still can’t understand the logic… If a few muslims has threatened south hall with life.. does it mean that you have to offend all Muslims? because believe me… It will offend almost all Muslims and it might not end in a very funny way… :-) Lets hope for the Peace…
Dear AC
I absolutely put drawing a man in turban and drawing holocaust at par… I do not get dictated by others when it comes to my personal ethics… I have group of people who think like me and they are very happy drawing holocaust and infact I have few of beautiful pieces of art depicting holocaust… you want to see some…???
Aamir a very commendable stance !!! Salute [ProPakistanis stand on this issue / last para]
“they clearly know that this will create hatred, mass violence and worst possible impact on Muslims’ feelings.”
Yes, and it shouldn’t, this is why this day exists. No religion has the right to tell people of the entire world, under threat of death, what they can and cannot draw a picture of.
What if I was a pagan and was offended by drawings of the sun or the ocean since you’re trying to steal their souls and seal them on paper? Would you stop drawing the sun and the ocean? Of course not, you wouldn’t give a damn about my beliefs, so why should I give a damn about yours? If you don’t like pictures of Mohammad, don’t look at them.l
I wish you were a pagan, so you could think of anything beyond offending Muslims
Tim’s probably like me, and has offended Christians, to their face. Fortunately, they have dignity, and choose to merely be offended, maybe say something retarded about how atheism is a religion too, and insult Richard Dawkins or something.
I guess that’s one thing Christians can be commended for.
@cokehead & Kevin
I love drawing people dieing with pain and my drawing skills r not rusty at all… The ethics I follow does not find it hateful at all and I have lots of others who love this too… I m sure now u will have no problem if we draw holocaust… go go Freedom of Speech or Drawing…
and no ethical standards are applied on all in the world… I love drawing holocaust and will start campaign soon but I m not following as one of u said that the reply to offense is to offense back… I will just draw this for the sake of “Freedom of Drawing”… go go…
Sure buddy, draw all the pictures you want. Now if your pictures are disrespectful to victims of the Holocaust, people might not take too kindly to their publication. It’s still legal of course, but a d**k move, as would be any death threats issued to you in reference to your pictures. I also hope you’re sensible enough to understand the difference between trivializing a rule followed by adherents of a particular superstition and trivializing the genocide of six million people.
If it means anything, note that my planned Mohammad picture is one of him and me playing volleyball vs. Jesus and Buddha. FSM might referee.
How biased you are, you talk about morality and respect when it comes to holocaust.
His opinion is that drawing (and thus trivializing) the mass murder of jews is wrong. But he also has no trouble with you doing it, he just thinks it’s kind of cruel, as it really would only be causing offense for the sake of causing offense. But that’s still totally fine, because it’s political speech.
Drawing mass murder of jews is wrong?
Then how come mocking of a Prophet (drawing pictures below decency) stands right to you?
Cokehead, i am sorry but i may not reply any further comments from you. Reason: don’t deem it necessary
Freedom of speech is quite lovely, isn’t it?
I’m sure you’ll support Draw Muhammad day then, even if you disagree with its tone and its content. Because it appears to me that you support its aim – that is, to protect the rights enshrined in America’s first amendment, basic human rights, and in the founding documents of many other western democracies.
Wow… you opened my eye Cokehead…
I surely have no problem with it… for u it might be something to agonize muslim world but for me drawing holocaust is fulfillment of my artistic preferences… I would love to live in the democracies u mentioned so that I have a right to draw holocaust and make it public without getting threat… Telling u the truth all the muslims r unethical as they probably won’t even let me draw holocaust… so bad… support me cokehead for my freedom… OOO western democracies I need ur help… :)
I also agree with Haroon. I like to learn Drawing and mostly like to 1st draw “holocaust”. Let me know your contact and I also like to share it with you.
@Tim
How much we believe in freedom of speech can be seen from the fact that your comments are appearing on this website.
Can I make nude images of “POPE” in the name of “freedom of speech” ?
Why Muhammad Hussain (famous ex-Indian, now Qatari painter) had to leave India after he drew images of goddesses of Hindu religion ? Why hindus were not tolerent and were so violent in protests against him? Are only Muslims intolerent then ?
Can I make nude images of anyone’s family in the name of “freedom of speech” ?
May be I won’t do that because my religion Islam doesn’t allow me to attack belief and leaders of oher religion.
Talk about killings of Palestines by Isreal, Kashmiris by India, Afghans & Iraqis by US, use your freedom of speech for agony of these nations imposed on them by wicked powers of the world. This Halocast of nations is underway and requires your use of freedom of speech.
I do respect this site for publishing dissenting comments, I’ll throw that out there right away.
Draw all the nude images of the Pope that you want, my friend. While you’re at it, you can also go ahead and make nude drawings of people I actually care about. Meanwhile I’ll be making a non-nude drawing of Mohammad and me playing volleyball with some other gods.
When did I say that I supported Hindu or Israeli intolerance? I’ll see if I can work Vishnu into my Mohammad picture too. I have a Jewish roommate and I’ve explained to him often that I don’t agree with Israel’s actions.
Let me say again. I am not a member of your religion, I don’t have to follow your superstitions. If you think drawing a picture of Mohammad makes me a d**k, fine, maybe I am one, but the proper response to d**kery is contempt, not death threats. If I’m being a d**k, call me immature and move on with your life, that’s the civilized response.
but Tim, seriously, what in this world makes you happy to offend someone? Your hobby? maybe purpose of life.
I would actually love to hear that why can’t you just go away with something that concerns the feeling of someone. For instance, if your roommate doesn’t like horns, will you play them? Your attitude shows you will love to play them, just cause it will irritate someone besides you.
Also note this was displayed in an American museum: http://digitalconsciousness.com/renowned/Ofili/
The mayor of NYC threw a temper tantrum, but that’s about all he could do. He got over it.
http://www.drawmohammed.com hacked by Muslim Hackers !
Sweeet!!!!
brother this site is not that site.
there is little bit difference in url
drawmuhammadday.com this is the site which is restricted in pakistan now
it speaks volumes that in todays age, the proponents of islam do not have enough strength in their convictions, and so they believe that a cartoon depicting a man who is dead is harmful. facebook should not be banned in your country; for many who live there, it is one of a very limited few avenues for people to see the world outside of the muslim faith; and there is much to see. i am not religious, and i do not subscribe to any faith at all. i am an atheist. i do not believe in your prophet, or any prophet from any religion. for something to be sacred, requires belief from the viewer. your religion is not unique. it is not even yours. it was copied form christianity and judaism. those were copied from religions that came before them. stop perpetrating myths and legends. it is time that the human race came together as one people, a people that no longer need to live under the rules of mythic figures form the past.
Wow doug man you dont know how wrong you are!!!
I strongly advise you, go and find an authentic book and read about the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and remove the bias from your heart.
ask yourself why are so many non-Muslims converting to Islam (reverting is what they say)…you just dont want to seek the knowlege because you are afraid of the fact that your heart will compel you to change and that you will realize that this is the truth…
Go and read the Prophecies of the Holy Prophet (PBUH), what he said 1400 years ago are all coming true in this day and age…
I strongly advise you to seek this knowlege. God does not need you, He does not need any of us..it is us that need Him and His blessings…or you will simply find out on the Day of Judgement when it will be too late…let on That Day your eyes bear witness that someone did try to help you and you ignored……..
Facebook has been blocked and shall remain banned forever. No matter this has been the 3rd largest website visited inside the country (www.alexa.com) but we don’t need such stupid and out of sense social networking drama out there. Guys, i liked the ideas of making our own social network platform like socialpakistan.pk or anything. We have guru of web development inside and outside the country (pure Pakistani’s) who are writing codes for Microsoft and other big companies. Arabic world is making such platforms for example meedan.net .
great propakistani i am with you and i think boycott is the best option to protest
and our local social networking websites should be promoted.
Listen, just as you have the right to speak about muhammad, people have the right to speak against him. (or draw cartoons, or make movies) Seeing churches on every corner offends me, any display of religion is offensive to me as an intelligent human being. But you know what, they have the right to believe in anything they want, not matter how irrational. You don’t like what is on facebook, leave it then. Nothing is stopping you.
What exactly needed is that some rules are passed in UN about Blasphemous acts.
But who will do this? and who will demand this? our corrupt and ill leaders? princes and kings of Arab who seem not to follow any Islamic rule which is not in their personal favour. Its us the public who have to the ordinary Muslims who have to unite and make our voice heard, we should be thankful to honourable Lahore High Court who gave the order of banning, other wise PTA didnt seemed to be in mode as they were claiming it could affect and create problems for complete internet access in Pakistan, which to my view is completely false, there are many sites banned in China but no one blocked internet traffic from china.
No offense intended, in order to pass any ruling on “blasphemy” you must first prove your deity to be true. Since the nature of any religion is to believe without thought or evidence, this can not be done. As a rational human, we all must strive to speak out against the irrationality that is religion.
They are not going to block/delete the page, You can see the devil inside the creators and management of Facebook:
A Facebook spokesman told FoxNews.com it has no plans to censor any of the pages associated with the campaign or the counter-campaign, though threats will be removed.
“Threats of violence and direct statements of hate against particular communities violate our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities and are removed when reported to us,” reads a company statement to FoxNews.com.
“Facebook is highly self-regulating, and users can and do report content that they find questionable or offensive. Groups that express an opinion on a state, institution, or set of beliefs — even if that opinion is outrageous or offensive to some — do not by themselves violate our policies. When a group created to express an opinion devolves into threats or hate speech, we will remove the threatening or hateful comments and may even remove the group itself.”
The statement continued: “With now more than 400 million people around the world with varying opinions and ideals using Facebook as a place to discuss and share things that are important to them, we sometimes find people discussing and posting about controversial topics.”
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/05/19/facebook-fracas-breaks-everybody-draw-mohammad-day/
I wanna f#*# up those b#*#*%^* badly because of their attitude.
If Allah is so upset about this event, why doesn’t he just delete the facebook page himself?
Is this a urge or a challenge?
admin, please del such stupid posts
How stupid Tim…
Allah is not upset, actually the creatures of Allah are upset…
I just feel pity for u the way u post ur arguments…
Plz Join Hands TO Launch A Flooding Attack On Facebook.
Just Download and Run the batch File
From The Link:
http://bestm4u.com/attack.facebook.zip.
plz Spread it as much as you can
wtf PTA has failed to block facebook.com.
It is still accessible from m.facebook.com
Please email [email protected] and request them to put a permanant ban on Facebook.
I have already emailed them.
people login to your you tube accounts as well and report abuse to all those videos that promote draw day ! it’s another way for not getting it spread
Please someone should hack Facebook and then they will realize what they are doing wrong!
The whole world will then be urging Facebook to make it right and respect Muslim beliefs.
They will realize that it does affect us.
Those Muslims who are saying that this ban is wrong:
They are testing our beleifs, If we had not done anything, they would have gone further.
aha.. lots of dogs barking on freedom of speech! I thought I couldonly find them on streets but they reach to my country as well.. Aamir bro, let the dogs do their work. at maximum they only can give headache! Replying them is just waste of time!
Why are we so attached to facebook when world’s leading nuller is handing out free clones of Facebook ever since 1996? Simply google for Lemance Facebook and start your Facebook that complies with our culture and religion. Pakistan Zindabad!
@ Time
If i draw your mother as bi*tch would that be offense or freedom of speech, If its freedom of speech I am willing to do it up
‘offense or freedom of speech’ It’s not one or the other. Freedom of speech only matters if people are allowed to say things that someone else may not agree with or find offensive, otherwise it’s a completely useless concept as there is no freedom is only being allowed to express things that all others are in agreement with.
Please forgive my ignorance of the subject but I am having a hard time understanding why non-Muslims are not supposed to draw Mohammad. I realize I am not any type of expert on the subject but wasn’t this a mandate for Muslims and under a context that involved idolatry and such?
“As freedom of speech goes Its not fair because when someone might say anything against the jews, african americans and gays! then thats wrong..but if its against muslims then its fine? People who deny the holocaust should be shut up because its anti-semetic..but people who offend muslims are heroes because its freedom of speech? And you think only muslims are terrorists? I think these people trying to anger about a billion people in the world are also terrorists. But if u think this is fine then i guess anti-semantism and anti-blacks is freedom of speech as well “
Thomas Carlyle in ‘Heroes and Hero Worship and the Heroic in History,’ 1840
“The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only.”
“A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the world’s Maker had ordered so.”
http://69.63.189.12/
to
http://69.63.189.56/
This facebook IP range is still open and gives access to facebook. Please report to [email protected] to block this range. I have already done so.
I don’t understand why we can not arrange muslims own website like http://www.muslimfacebook.com
Our computer engineers are of no use???????????
i already deactivated my facebook account and INSHA ALLAH i will never use again facebook in my life :)
I am proud to be a muslim and as well as Pakistani. Boycott bacebook…………….
FACEBOOK MURDAABAAD. I will Inshallah not use facebook again
Slmz To allll………….
i am reguler user of facebook but after i heard about “Draw muhammad” page i feel sad.the solution is not tht to ban facebook in pakistan.We have prfessional hackers sittin in software house n we have many authorities to do ths jobbb…….so kindly use these people to block n del all pages 4rm facebook.
مجھے تو مشرف بے چارے پر ہنسی آ رہی ہے کہ اس نے فس بک پر اتنے لوگ اکٹھے کے اور فس بک بند ہو گئی
Good job!
I think deactivating the account is the best strategy. Coz in today’s economy, no social website would like to reduce its number of users.
As far as my account on FB is concerned…. it’s dead (InshAllah forever)
– Jamil
I totally agree with the idea of stop using FB forever. I mean what’s the point in leaving it for a day or two, or for a month for that matter? If they were Obnoxious enough to do it once … how can we expect them not to repeat it again in future. We gave them millions of addiotinal bucks in attempt to repot the page with our clicks. this will deffinitiely send a message which we intend by reporting … but this will also send a hidden prospect … “whenever FB feels the need of additional revenue … they will again indulge in a similar act and a similar cycle will start again.
In addition to this, the feelings of all the muslims have been brutally molested this time and atleast I can not take a chance to face a similar disgrace in future again.
I have not even bothered to deactivate my account … if ever the site is unblocked … only then i will login only once to deactivate it.
This is the least I can do as a muslim … we are already sitting at a historical low as far as intensity of eeman and love for religion is concerned … LETS NOT LET IT SINK TO NEW LOWS !!!
Aamir Bhai is it true that Turkish hackers attcked facebook’s Group which has been holding a competition to draw caricatures of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) on 19th May …. ????
is youtube.com also banned???
i cant access to youtube
***********Update************
wikipedia, flickr and youtube is also blocked now.
Gr8 job Pro-Pakistan. I would be de-activating my facebook account once I am able to access facebook again. Masshallah court has taken great steps.
can we sue facebook for this action ??
http://en.wikipedia.org/ and http://www.youtube.com/ are also blocked now.
All I just want to say is All muslims should boycott Facebook. And even non-muslim friends for the sake of humanity and being a CIVILIZED CITIZEN boycott facebook.
Block Facebook forever !!!
The only solution of this is to boycott facebook forever.
Communities such as in favor of this incident and against this incident, both are on facebook. No matter u are against it or favor of it both are on facebook.
Please delete your accounts and make it non popular at least in pakistan.
Dear Admin
I am a silent reader of your blog, this is my first time i am writing any thing on any blog, i simply love propakistani, let me write what i really want to write….
This is my request to Pakistani GOVT to BLOCK FACEBOOK PERMANENTLY, I think all of my Muslim brothers and sisters are wise enough to guess that they (FB) wont stop these type of hated things, They REMOVED the page which is spreading hated things about JEWS within 20 minutes, But they are unable to remove hated pages regarding OUR BELOVED PROPHET MUHAMMED (S.A.W.W), as a Muslim i feel ashamed|||| Apart from all this i personally feel that FACEBOOK is ruining our youth, they have now connected FB to your cells, don’t you think they are penetrating into our life like a silent poison. i know not any invention is bad, but usage of that invention make it bad or good,,,,but i think at this time we should response the western media and countries with great sensible answer, tell them that we are not terrorist, we love humanity, Our Religion ISLAM is all about HUMANITY….. MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU ALL, PEACE
Freedom of speech should be there but there are limits to it. One cannot use freedom of speech to hurt beliefs of more than a billion Muslims in the world. Muslims respect beliefs & prophets of all other religions. If others can’t give respect to them atleast they shouldn’t hurt them.
Its not fair because when someone might say anything against the jews, african americans and gays! then that’s wrong….. but if its against Muslims then its fine? People who deny the holocaust should be shut up because its anti-semetic.. but people who offend muslims are heroes because its freedom of speech?
Majority of Facebook users are against this page and more than 63,000 users reported to facebook for a ban on it as it is not only blasphemous but also violation of Facebook TOS. Item 3.7 of Facebook TOS says “You will not post content that: is hateful, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence”. Facebook hasn’t removed the page, giving its indirect support for the cause.
Facebook is earning through advertisement shown to the visitors. Lose in visitors means lose in earnings. People who love peace & have respect for others should de-activate their facebook account & should file a petition in their local courts to get BAN facebook in their region until Facebook removes the blasphemy page. Pakistan’s court has taken a very good step by putting a BAN on facebook other countries should also follow it. This is the best & peaceful way of protest.
AoA,
the best decision by the ProPakistani.pk administration to abandon facebook once and for all, in essence, i wouldn’t like to go to a meeting place where there is no respect for my elders, and facebook has become a place whose owners don’t care about the 1.5 billion muslims of this world so therefore the best decision is taken, JazakALLAH !
The only thing i can say to those who are lost in the illusion of “FREEDOM of Speech” is…
How do you guys describe the term “freedom” ??? is your deffintion limited only to “speaking your sh*t out” at what ever and who ever you feel like???
doesn’t freedom also require a person to stay safe from external offenses on his beliefs and feelings ???
Does your deffinition of freedom demand to subotage freedom of others?
Imagine this … you (being a free soul) is sitting peacefully in your lounge living your life and all of a sudden someone starts throwing stones at your house … will you let him continue doing so … oh you will ??? ok fine … you let him do it … then he starts writing abussive words on outer walls of your house … will you still let him enjoy his freedom ??? he then breaks your front door and steps inside and drags one of your family members and starts molesting him / her… will you still let him enjoy his freedom ??? ok then don’t stop him from doing anything indecent with your family members … dont even stop him from killing them … why should you stop him ??? he is FREE to do what so ever he feels like… RIGHT ???
you guys dont get it do you ???
If someone comes and makes fun of me … the concept of tolerance can not be generalized … you can tolerate if someone makes fun of you or slaps you or pinches you … but you can not tolerate if someone starts penetrating needles in your heart… you are bound to feel the pain and react.
Love for Allah Almighty and Prophet (PBUH) is the heart of our religion; our faith. and you expect us not to react when someone stabs at our heart??? if you do expect this, then you are not qualified to be called a human, as humans do feel and react.
Aamir
Update news from facebook officials what they say now!
Here i want to point one thing, people have started so many campaigns against this.. “DDOS attack on Facebook” This is useless this would not work anyway. They will simply block the Complete IPs range from dedicated for Pakistan.
Best is to Deactivate your profiles and don’t use this behaya portal anymore.
Grow Script Kiddies!
Well said and great effort .
We need to call on some real hackers who can bring facebook down or launch thousands of DDOS so that the site becomes unavailable. If there’s any hacker reading this who is against this shameful act I request u to start your work in bringing facebook down.
This is really surprising that PTA has blocked wikipedia.org & youtube.com. PTA had taken a very good step by blocking the whole website of facebook. Blocking the whole website of facebook is a good step as they will face financial lose due to reduction in visitors and will compelled to remove blasphemy pages. I think now PTA is moving in wrong direction by blocking other popular websites like Wikipedia & youtube.
They should block only facebook whole website which is the main source of recent disturbance in the muslim world. There might be some blasphemy content on wikipedia, youtube or other websites. They should only block the specific URLs of these websites as they are not involved in recent disturbance. If they will block all websites then it will disturb people a lot and they will oppose the whole action. So it might backfire and they will have to unblock facebook too.
So please send your concerns to PTA to keep the whole website of only facebook blocked until blasphemy pages are removed by them and block only specific URLs of other websites.
whr r u man! we should be againt you tube as it is promoting non-sense as well.
well wikipedia banning is to be reviewed.
my dear bro pls nte that cummist country like china has blocked/banned all pronographic websites, if PTA has taken step then dont break the chain and block/banned all website which are promoting vulgarity among our youngesters.
pls save islam and promote education.
regards
I hope in coming days some Muslim countries who are not too much under US & Europe influence will take steps to ban these websites.
But this is a fact that mostly in middle east brothers from Muslim countries are treated as 3rd grade citizens over a dirty “gora” due to the fact that ruling class in middle east is under Europe & US influence. But still we can expect something good.
How many non-Muslims are in Pakistan? What if they aren’t offended by facebook or youtube and still want to use them? Do their rights not matter?
Democracy is when most of the people are offended… I remember people protesting against US insurgence on Iraq… what happened to it…
There are non-muslims in Pakistan and I must say they are non-muslims and good human beings…
this is war, just ban the hell facebook,
request all softwares engrs. to let that jewish people knw what is power of muslims. destroy them.
Facebook and any such site NO WAY, NEVER…….
Pls unite against these non-muslims.
Awake Muslim Awake
Return to FB again? No way. I will never support FB again in my life. Damage done is done! If we have any shame/gheerath then we should not use fb again
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I am greatly hurt and cant express my feelings. I am deactivating my facebook account.
Hell with crap facebook !!!!………get lost!!!!!
Here goes your freedom of expression at facebook.. Facebook thinks that making fun of prophet is not bad but breastfeeding photos uploaded by the owner is indecent.
Breastfeeding photos
Facebook has been criticized for removing photos uploaded by mothers of themselves breastfeeding their babies and also canceling their Facebook accounts. Although photos that show an exposed breast violate Facebook’s decency code, even when the baby covered the nipple, Facebook took several days to respond to calls to deactivate a paid advertisement for a dating service that used a photo of a topless model.[88]
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook#May_2010
I agree with propakistani to abandon facebook
its really a great stand from propakistani.
thanks to you people for this reaction.
Face book Should Avoid Such competitions because Prophet Muhammad is admired by many Non-Muslims
at http://loginuk.com/non-muslims-admire.
To protest against silly competition
Comment here. http://loginuk.com/archives/1#comments
I relish, cause I found exactly what I used to be taking a look for. You’ve ended my 4 day long hunt! God Bless you man. Have a nice day. Bye
JazakAllah for making the right decision at right time and permanantly boycotting the facebook. May Allah Almighty accept your bonafide intention.
However there are many other reasons as well which compel especially a Muslim to permanantly boycott facebook, such as; by making a permanent boycott of facebook;
·You will disconnect your connection with facebook.
·You will stop providing them moral support.
·You will stop providing them financial support.
·The facebook will start loosing her consistent users.
·They will realize the dignity of our Prophet (Peace be upon him) in our eyes.
·By getting a huge financial loss, they may refrain themselves from any further mischievous act.
·By loosing the trust of their users, they may stop supporting any further blasphemous groups/competitions.
·By doing so, all the Muslim Ummah will stand on one platform which will promote unity.
·The impudents will be no more benefited.
·By watching the great financial loss, other companies and web based communities may refrain themselves from hosting such sort of events.
·The entire world will realize that the whole Muslim Ummah is having one vision and the whole Ummah greatly protests the depiction of their Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him).
its very good to aware people about this critical situation in turn speacially muslims using facebook.so it is neccessary to protest against face book.we have to boycott face book…..forever
muslim should have their own social networking site…
band that facebook….. and stop using it